first one for me

[tuesdaysgone]

Yes I'm a newbie and I've done some research, maybe not as much as I should have, but be easy on me.

I've been tinkering with starting for the past year or two. I have 4 "brothers" that use/have used. I've done a lot of research on it and I know about my diet. but yet I"m a newbie to these and I'm gonna be starting soon and I'm the stubborn type, well "impatient" is better put.

So by a member of the military and a brother of mine, here is what's been suggested to me.
(I'm 28, 140 and about 5'9", I've always been small and I could eat a horse literally. In the past I haven't had much problem gaining 20 pounds while working out and eating right, approx 2500-3000 calories a day. I've never been over 150. I would like to reach 160-180 pounds.)

8 week cycle

Dina-Bol
Sustanon(sp?)
Deca shots:
one a week for week 1 and 2
two a week for weeks 3 -7
and one the last week

take a break

I haven't been working out lately, but have started and once I get into something I get heavily into it, meaning I'll be doing heavy excercise including cardio, and proper nutrition, etc.

My question is, to you pros, does this seem ridiculous? My heart is set and it's gonna be hard to change my mind. I have accepted the sides and what not. I'm just ready to see results

[breakbones]

Is this your first cycle?

[Big]

{sigh}
5'9" and 140lbs, your diet is to blame...

[mkrulic]

write it out like this for better responses:
age
bf%
cycle exp.
then
weeks 1-8
500mg sust/week
300mg deca/week
40mg dbol/ed
or whatever you had in mind

[tuesdaysgone]

Is this your first cycle?

yes and damn yall are fast.

[tuesdaysgone]

{sigh}
5'9" and 140lbs, your diet is to blame...

I think it's more along the lines of my metabolism. My father was scrawny. Again I haven't been lifting for a while, but getting back into it.

[mkrulic]

I think it's more along the lines of my metabolism. My father was scrawny. Again I haven't been lifting for a while, but getting back into it.

no. If you take in more then you spend you will gain weight. what body type are you?

[breakbones]

Your better of hitting the diet sections, that's the best and only thing that is creating you harm in your gains. And this is something you may be lacking when you think your not

[G4R]

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

^^^This is where I would start if I were you. Worry about the gear later.

[tuesdaysgone]

write it out like this for better responses:
age
bf%
cycle exp.
then
weeks 1-8
500mg sust/week
300mg deca/week
40mg dbol/ed
or whatever you had in mind

Thank You.

I'm not sure on exacts of mg, just listening to advice from buddies, but I seem to remember 2 mg per pound, correct? so 300mg per 150 lbs, per week of Deca?

I believe we would stop the sust, or maybe the dbol a week before stopping deca.

[mkrulic]

Thank You.

I'm not sure on exacts of mg, just listening to advice from buddies, but I seem to remember 2 mg per pound, correct? so 300mg per 150 lbs, per week of Deca?

I believe we would stop the sust, or maybe the dbol a week before stopping deca.

why are you taking the deca? what are your goals w/ this cycle? age?

[warchild]

bad bad bad bad idea

[tuesdaysgone]

see that's the thing guys, I know about the diet, I just HAVE NOT been attempting to keep it where it should be. Yes I agree my diet will change dramatically. I've lifted in the past and gained considerable amount of weight, 20 lbs, just by a very strong diet and hitting the gym. So I understand where my diet needs to be. but when i got where I was, I wasn't completely happy. I want better, larger, more noticeable gains.

Let me put it this way, for the past 3 or 4 years I've been a lazy ass. My life damn near revolves around work and I"ve had no momentum. I do now, and it's time to get serious. I know the diet. I will do the diet correctly, but I want the gear as well.

[one8nine]

Yes I'm a newbie and I've done some research, maybe not as much as I should have, but be easy on me.

I've been tinkering with starting for the past year or two. I have 4 "brothers" that use/have used. I've done a lot of research on it and I know about my diet. but yet I"m a newbie to these and I'm gonna be starting soon and I'm the stubborn type, well "impatient" is better put.

So by a member of the military and a brother of mine, here is what's been suggested to me.
(I'm 28, 140 and about 5'9", I've always been small and I could eat a horse literally. In the past I haven't had much problem gaining 20 pounds while working out and eating right, approx 2500-3000 calories a day. I've never been over 150. I would like to reach 160-180 pounds.)

8 week cycle

Dina-Bol
Sustanon(sp?)
Deca shots:
one a week for week 1 and 2
two a week for weeks 3 -7
and one the last week

take a break

I haven't been working out lately, but have started and once I get into something I get heavily into it, meaning I'll be doing heavy excercise including cardio, and proper nutrition, etc.

My question is, to you pros, does this seem ridiculous? My heart is set and it's gonna be hard to change my mind. I have accepted the sides and what not. I'm just ready to see results

by chance... brothers... dreamer? julio?

[tuesdaysgone]

why are you taking the deca? what are your goals w/ this cycle? age?

this is what's been reccommended to me, I'm just doing the research. I want large, quick gains and CUT. Hell isn't that what everyone wants?

Again this is just what I've been told would be best for my situation by someone I trust with my life.

[tuesdaysgone]

by chance... brothers... dreamer? julio?

I don't know that they're on here, 3 of them I know for sure are not. The "brother" actually ex brother in law is member of army and has had his share. And I bout shit when I seen him first time after, then on I knew what I wanted.

[tuesdaysgone]

bad bad bad bad idea

elaborate please.

[warchild]

yikes man...you dont need AAS. try lifting w/o a break and eating

[10nispro]

Lets see an example of a days eating.

[tuesdaysgone]

Hey 189, I noticed your avatar when i first found this, me likes. But I just noticed the title under your screename. May I ask why?

[warchild]

[QUOTE=tuesdaysgone;4120674]Yes I'm a newbie and I've done some research, maybe not as much as I should have, but be easy on me.

I've been tinkering with starting for the past year or two. I have 4 "brothers" that use/have used. I've done a lot of research on it and I know about my diet. but yet I"m a newbie to these and I'm gonna be starting soon and I'm the stubborn type, well "impatient" is better put.

So by a member of the military and a brother of mine, here is what's been suggested to me.
(I'm 28, 140 and about 5'9", I've always been small and I could eat a horse literally. In the past I haven't had much problem gaining 20 pounds while working out and eating right, approx 2500-3000 calories a day. I've never been over 150. I would like to reach 160-180 pounds.)

8 week cycle

Dina-Bol
Sustanon(sp?)
Deca shots:
one a week for week 1 and 2
two a week for weeks 3 -7
and one the last week

take a break

I haven't been working out lately,

[warchild]

enough said. how old are you like 15????

[tuesdaysgone]

Lets see an example of a days eating.

ok I'm sure to get flamed but you have to understand I don't work at home.
so a typical day's meals is say:
breakfast:
nada or granola bar, lol

lunch:

buffet or fast food

dinner:
restraunt, whatever

I always try to keep the protein up, chicken/turkey/tuna, etc.

[one8nine]

I know about my diet.

describe your diet in detail

8 week cycle

Dina-Bol
Sustanon(sp?)
Deca shots:
one a week for week 1 and 2
two a week for weeks 3 -7
and one the last week

take a break

how much dbol? and for how long?
sustanon is a terrible terrible cycle choice, period
deca is 2x a week, every week
these are way too many componds to start with anyway, plus sustanon sucks.
also you need to learn how to eat correctly, which you obviously dont know at 140- i dont want metabolism excuses i have a fast one too

I haven't been working out lately, but have started and once I get into something I get heavily into it, meaning I'll be doing heavy excercise including cardio, and proper nutrition, etc.

My question is, to you pros, does this seem ridiculous? My heart is set and it's gonna be hard to change my mind. I have accepted the sides and what not. I'm just ready to see results

i dont think youll see much result on this bad cycle with a bad diet. also you dont just "take a break" you need pct.
my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

[tuesdaysgone]

enough said. how old are you like 15????

nuff said bout what, NO I'M 28 thanks for the degrade ass.

[one8nine]

I don't know that they're on here, 3 of them I know for sure are not. The "brother" actually ex brother in law is member of army and has had his share. And I bout shit when I seen him first time after, then on I knew what I wanted.

oh i know 4 people in the military that call each other brothers that actually introduced me to this site thats why i guessed

[warchild]

ok I'm sure to get flamed but you have to understand I don't work at home.
so a typical day's meals is say:
breakfast:
nada or granola bar, lol

lunch:

buffet or fast food

dinner:
restraunt, whatever

I always try to keep the protein up, chicken/turkey/tuna, etc.

i thought you knew how to diet?

[one8nine]

Hey 189, I noticed your avatar when i first found this, me likes. But I just noticed the title under your screename. May I ask why?

sust sucks
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352930

[warchild]

nuff said bout what, NO I'M 28 thanks for the degrade ass.

there is NO flaming here, do some research before BIG sends you on your way!

[10nispro]

Not going to Flame you at all. You came hear to learn and that's why we are here. To help. Hit the diet forum and read read and read some more.

[one8nine]

ok I'm sure to get flamed but you have to understand I don't work at home.
so a typical day's meals is say:
breakfast:
nada or granola bar, lol

lunch:

buffet or fast food

dinner:
restraunt, whatever

I always try to keep the protein up, chicken/turkey/tuna, etc.

i eat that for breakfast

thats 1500kcals if you are lucky

you need 4-6 meals plus some post workout shake

please read this link, please

diet
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

[tuesdaysgone]

describe your diet in detail

how much dbol? and for how long?
sustanon is a terrible terrible cycle choice, period
deca is 2x a week, every week
these are way too many componds to start with anyway, plus sustanon sucks.
also you need to learn how to eat correctly, which you obviously dont know at 140- i dont want metabolism excuses i have a fast one too


i dont think youll see much result on this bad cycle with a bad diet. also you dont just "take a break" you need pct.
my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

I understand the diet concept fellas, I really do.
5-7 meals a day
Let's say 4000+ calories
large amounts of protein and the proper carbs, minimal sugars and fats, no soda poppies, etc.
I am improving my diet as we speak. I'm an impatient person by nature and am very concious about myself and my weight, and I want to go large. I WILL NOT take the meds and squat on the diet or excercise, that would be pointless.

[warchild]

5'9 and 140lbs tells everyone here that you are not ready for AAS

[tuesdaysgone]

In the past................
bfast:
banana
apple
toast
and whatever else

brunch:

tuna or pbj 2 large servings

lunch:
turkey, chicken, veggies, and chicken

snacker:
breads, tunas chicken, tuna

dinner: was the biggie

larger amount of proteins whether chicken/turkey/tuna,pb

Before and after each workout I'd have a shake, usually a choclate Hulk, from and/or power bars.
My everday goal was 3k calories and I forget the amounts of proteins and carbs, but it was up there.
I took creatine supps and whey protein as well.

[tuesdaysgone]

5'9 and 140lbs tells everyone here that you are not ready for AAS

I understand what you're saying to an extent. but with a proper diet I will not keep anything on without some help, and what I do gain is not cut, never was.

Are you saying I'm not ready for AAS, because my diet is not proper? If that's the case...........MY DIET WILL BE PROPER, but i want more than a diet/workout. Maybe I'm missing something, but that's why I'm here to learn.

[warchild]

look man im not trying to be hard on you, but fact is at your weight/height you can gain naturally. if you want to do juice it your money and your life.

[G4R]

........ http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 ..........

[tuesdaysgone]

look man im not trying to be hard on you, but fact is at your weight/height you can gain naturally. if you want to do juice it your money and your life.

I understand and I appreciate it, honestly. Yes I do want to do it. If I don't like it or can't handle it I'll just stop after the first cycle and do it completely natural. I've done it natural but it was a pain to keep the weight, muscle mass on. I really don't know why, always just blamed metabolism.
Like most newbies I'm sure, i want the OMFG factor from others. I'm tired of being this size and I know I won't be satisfied naturally. I want MASSIVE mass. Not no pro bber size, but massive for my frame.

[tuesdaysgone]

........ http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 ..........

I've been looking at that, and nothing there is new to me, nada. I understand it and I've done it. I just wasn't doing it a week ago or in the previous. I know what a LARGE diet will get me, it WILL show me results i understand that, but I want more. I tend to dream/want/need large.

[warchild]

good luck and keep us posted