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    starting a cycle, when should??

    i'm starting a cycle of deca , 300mg 1x week , 8 weeks and 25 mg of var ed 8 weeks. just want some lean muscle not get 2 bid just ripped. if i start monday5 pm in the gym should i inject sunday night or before workout? which is better? 155lbs 14%bf been a long time since last cycle. 5'5"

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    scatch that cycle,, 155lbs is pretty low even at 5'5 , you defeinatly have room to make improvments without aas, get your hands on a good diet plan and take it from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboy-chris View Post
    scatch that cycle,, 155lbs is pretty low even at 5'5 , you defeinatly have room to make improvments without aas, get your hands on a good diet plan and take it from there
    Damn I didn't see the 5'5" you need to work on you diet and drop a couple % of BF and gain some natural muscle.

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    yea yea i know, thats why i'm in the gym right, to modify my body lol. i 4 months ago i was 179lbs, but the cuetion is when shoul i inject sunday or monday befor gym.

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    and plus that cyle it self is garbage decca stacked with var???

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    cant't use test, the acne side efect kills me, already happened. no sence having a nice body if people can't look at youre face. plus i think deca itself shoul give me litle but nice gains. var is just 2 gain a litle strenth and burn some stuburn fat.

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    Testosterone – Testosterone is necessary for other functions in the human body other than muscular and cellular development. Without it, one could potentially have problems sexually, mentally, and physically. The body has a system called the LH feedback loop. The more androgenic hormones that you have in your body, the less your body will feel the need to produce any testosterone at all. Basically, the point is Testosterone is necessary in almost any cycle, except a short DHT cycle (which will be explained later). 19nors should never be taken without test. This also illustrates why PCT is necessary.

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    oh and deca needs to be injected twice a week
    you only get acne and side effects if you dont control estrogen/progesterone, and dont inject frequently enough, or dont shower
    deca can cause acne too


    estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
    estrogen/progesterone and gyno/side effects INFO FOR NEW GUYS

    my pct
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    is there a test less prone to acne side efect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by odejes View Post
    is there a test less prone to acne side efect?
    any test you use correctly
    but injected test prop daily will keep levels more stable than anything
    is this your first cycle?? it better be at 155...
    you dont need all that for a first cycle especially at your size


    Test Beginner Cycle Guide
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    phate's starter pack
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    kale's starter pack
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    my (one8nine's) starter pack
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352741

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    are there test claners than others? still worried acne side. should i scrap the var part if test is used or should i use it anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    oh and deca needs to be injected twice a week
    you only get acne and side effects if you dont control estrogen/progesterone, and dont inject frequently enough, or dont showerdeca can cause acne too


    estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by odejes View Post
    are there test claners than others? still worried acne side. should i scrap the var part if test is used or should i use it anyway?
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