Steriod cycle help

**Dwg0416** · 08-19-2008, 12:08 PM

I have been working out now for 4 years and have done a deca cycle in the past. Im looking for a good cycle for strength. If anyone has any ideas i want to hear from you.

im 5'8" 185 pounds 13% bf

I was thinking Test anadrol stack

**Phate** · 08-19-2008, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dwg0416

I have been working out now for 4 years and have done a deca cycle in the past. Im looking for a good cycle for strength. If anyone has any ideas i want to hear from you.

im 5'8" 185 pounds 13% bf

I was thinking Test anadrol stack

how old are you
what pct did you do for your deca cycle, which is horrible btw

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 08-19-2008, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Dwg0416

I have been working out now for 4 years and have done a deca cycle in the past. Im looking for a good cycle for strength. If anyone has any ideas i want to hear from you.

im 5'8" 185 pounds 13% bf

I was thinking Test anadrol stack

You done a deca only cycle? How long ago? Did you do any pct?

**Dwg0416** · 08-19-2008, 12:11 PM

just some anti- estrogen, and im 20

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 08-19-2008, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dwg0416

just some anti- estrogen, and im 20

What anti e's? How long was your deca cycle? How long ago was it? What was the dosage? And was it a deca only cycle?

**Dwg0416** · 08-19-2008, 12:27 PM

its was around 18 months ago n it was only 5 weeks, i cant remember what kinda anti e just somthing i picked up at edge. and 100mg

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 08-19-2008, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dwg0416

its was around 18 months ago n it was only 5 weeks, i cant remember what kinda anti e just somthing i picked up at edge. and 100mg

Poor cycle and low dosage. I dont know what edge is. Ive asked twice youve not answered was it a deca only cycle?

**Dwg0416** · 08-19-2008, 12:36 PM

Sorry, yes it was deca only

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 08-19-2008, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dwg0416

Sorry, yes it was deca only

Ok. I suggest test 500mgs p/week. You'll get great strength gains with this and nice lean muscle with a good diet ,training regime and pct.
What do you know about pct?

**Dwg0416** · 08-19-2008, 12:47 PM

i know nothing about pct.

and 500 per week for 12 weeks?

and i shouldn't stack?

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 08-19-2008, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Dwg0416

i know nothing about pct.

and 500 per week for 12 weeks?

and i shouldn't stack?

Nope you shouldnt stack on your first cycle ( Your last cycle cannot be considered a cycle). Yes 500mgs for 12 weeks. Your pct should be nolva 40mgs ed for 3 weeks 2 weeks after last shot if you use test e or test cyp. What test are you thinking of using? Also do some research on pct.

**Dwg0416** · 08-19-2008, 12:59 PM

what test do you suggest i do?

**Kratos** · 08-19-2008, 12:59 PM

your pct should not be nolva 40mg ed for 3 weeks

**Dwg0416** · 08-19-2008, 01:01 PM

how many cc or ml do i order and how many times a week should i inject

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 08-19-2008, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

your pct should not be nolva 40mg ed for 3 weeks

Why not?

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 08-19-2008, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Dwg0416

how many cc or ml do i order and how many times a week should i inject

I know it sounds like im getting on your case (im not) but i asked you a question in my last post . what test are you planning on using?

**Kratos** · 08-19-2008, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by bigbigt

Nope you shouldnt stack on your first cycle ( Your last cycle cannot be considered a cycle). Yes 500mgs for 12 weeks. Your pct should be nolva 40mgs ed for 3 weeks 2 weeks after last shot if you use test e or test cyp. What test are you thinking of using? Also do some research on pct.

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 08-19-2008, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

Whats up kratos?

**Kratos** · 08-19-2008, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by bigbigt

Why not?

hmm, you changed this from "that's what I said"

anyway 40mg of nolva is too much
40mg is no better than 20mg for boosting test levels in studies

if you were gonna do nolva only 20mg would be sufficent
but, I don't like nolva only, I think there is some benefit to adding an AI especially aromasin because nolva kinda masks the extra estrogen but it's still there. You get a lot of zits and stuff durring pct with nolva only and estro rebound after pct.

I like 20mg nolva ed/10-25mg aromasin ed for like 4 weeks
some people include hcg and that works well for them, but I don't

**Dwg0416** · 08-19-2008, 01:15 PM

the guy said test 400

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 08-19-2008, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

hmm, you changed this from "that's what I said"Yes i did, reason being i though you said something else. My mistake.

anyway 40mg of nolva is too much
40mg is no better than 20mg for boosting test levels in studiesI should of maybe said imo, as i find it better to run 40mgs. Are opinions differ.

if you were gonna do nolva only 20mg would be sufficent
but, I don't like nolva only, I think there is some benefit to adding an AI especially aromasin because nolva kinda masks the extra estrogen but it's still there. You get a lot of zits and stuff durring pct with nolva only and estro rebound after pct.He might not . everyone is different.

I like 20mg nolva ed/10-25mg aromasin ed
some people include hcg and that works well for them, but I don't

Replies in bold.

**Kratos** · 08-19-2008, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Dwg0416

the guy said test 400

Propionate 25mg, Enantate 188mg, Cypionate187mg

It's gonna burn your ass badly, and from what I understand it came from mexico and is not available anymore. Not that the same ingredients can't be made by a UGL.