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    Next Cycle

    Been playing about with this cycle a bit to get it right, need help with the dosage of each, i will be shooting the mast e, test e and tren e twice a week. What dosage would u recommend for each substance (mg). peace

    This will be my 4th cycle.
    stats:

    age: 25
    bf :10.4%
    175lbs
    5,8
    training 4 days a week


    1-10 masteron e
    1-10 test e
    1-8 tren e
    letro .25mg ed



    P.C.T

    (-2)-2:hcg 500iu 2x a week
    1-6: nolva 20mg ed
    1-4: clomid 25mg
    1-4: proviron 50mg ed
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1212 View Post
    Been playing about with this cycle a bit to get it right, need help with the dosage of each, i will be shooting the mast e, test e and tren e twice a week. What dosage would u recommend for each substance (mg). peace

    This will be my 4th cycle.
    stats:

    age: 25
    bf :10.4%
    175lbs
    5,8
    training 4 days a week


    1-10 masteron e
    1-10 test e
    1-8 tren e
    letro .25mg ed



    P.C.T

    (-2)-2:hcg 500iu 2x a week
    1-6: nolva 20mg ed
    1-4: clomid 25mg
    1-4: proviron 50mg ed
    bro on ur pct are those the number of the weeks ull be taking pct?

    coz if so as the name implies its post ,after, not during cycle bro

    test e 500 mg per week
    tren 40-70 mg every 2-3 days
    masteron P 100 mg eod
    Last edited by stallion_1; 08-24-2008 at 01:50 AM.

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    Bro stop starting new threads for the same questions

    test p query

    Masteron

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    No thats not the weeks he will be running PCT Stallion, thats 189 PCT...

    Its good...

    So RYAN...

    You dont wanna do Prop and Tren Ace anymore huh???

    Show me your stats

    age
    height
    weight
    bf%
    diet summary/# meals per day (im willing to bet this is your real issue...)
    years lifting / workout split
    cycle experience
    pct/estrogen control knowledge

    If you dont know what dose to run these, you havent done enough research.

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    No

    Stats
    age :25
    weight: 175lbs
    height : 5'8
    Bf : 10.4%


    War i dont fancy injecting every day which i would have to do with the prop and tren , this is why i posted this enanthate so i only have to shoot twice a week.

    I've done quite a bit of research but since yous are experts i thinks its better to ask ur opinions. is that not wat this site is for? peace..
    just lookin advice not a flaming.

    I'll be getting my gear in thailand in 2 weeks this is why i need to have everything sorted.


    THanx for the help stallion, sounds good bro.
    Last edited by ryan1212; 08-24-2008 at 01:09 AM.

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    nice cycle and I agree with stallions dosages. Have you used tren before?

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    Im not flaming you, im just simply saying that you could easily find the answers to your questions by using the search engine...

    But like most new guys youll just start a thread and ask for people to tell them to you without you actually looking for them.

    And yes, this site is for opinions, not to give newbies simple answers to questions that can be easily found with minimal effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1212 View Post
    Stats
    age :25
    weight: 175lbs
    height : 5'8
    Bf : 10.4%


    War i dont fancy injecting every day which i would have to do with the prop and tren , this is why i posted this enanthate so i only have to shoot twice a week.

    I've done quite a bit of research but since yous are experts i thinks its better to ask ur opinions. is that not wat this site is for? peace..
    just lookin advice not a flaming.

    I'll be getting my gear in thailand in 2 weeks this is why i need to have everything sorted.


    THanx for the help stallion, sounds good bro.
    no worries bro,

    remember masteron must be propionate to inject eod

    and careful with tren, its too strong

    also 'member to do pct n have proper ancillaries on hand in case trouble arises

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    thanx lads

    Quote Originally Posted by stallion_1 View Post
    no worries bro,

    remember masteron must be propionate to inject eod

    and careful with tren , its too strong

    also 'member to do pct n have proper ancillaries on hand in case trouble arises
    so masteron prop is ok to use along with test e and tren e?

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    sorry dude

    Just read back again you've already answered that last question for me stallion.... thanks peace

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    [quote=ryan1212;4151859]Been playing about with this cycle a bit to get it right, need help with the dosage of each, i will be shooting the mast e, test e and tren e twice a week. What dosage would u recommend for each substance (mg). peace

    This will be my 4th cycle.
    stats:

    age: 25
    bf :10.4%
    175lbs
    5,8
    training 4 days a week


    1-10 masteron e 300-400mgs a week shot twice a week
    1-10 test e 400-500mgs a week
    1-8 tren e 300-400mgs a week
    letro .25mg ed i would replace with armidex and keep letro on hand



    P.C.T
    week 12-16 nolva 20mgs ed
    week 12-16 proviron 50mgs ed
    week 12-16 armidex .25mgs ed or 20mgs aromasin ed
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1212 View Post
    Been playing about with this cycle a bit to get it right, need help with the dosage of each, i will be shooting the mast e, test e and tren e twice a week. What dosage would u recommend for each substance (mg). peace

    This will be my 4th cycle.
    stats:

    age: 25
    bf :10.4%
    175lbs
    5,8
    training 4 days a week


    1-10 masteron e 300-400mgs a week shot twice a week
    1-10 test e 400-500mgs a week
    1-8 tren e 300-400mgs a week
    letro .25mg ed i would replace with armidex and keep letro on hand



    P.C.T
    week 12-16 nolva 20mgs ed
    week 12-16 proviron 50mgs ed
    week 12-16 armidex .25mgs ed or 20mgs aromasin ed
    Thanx pt, should the test e and tren e be split into 2 shots a week also, and can they be shot together?

    should i use the armidex the whole way through cycle or just for pct?

    would u leave the hcg out also?

    Thanx for the input bro
    Last edited by ryan1212; 08-24-2008 at 04:08 AM.

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    [quote=ryan1212;4152061]
    Quote Originally Posted by PT View Post

    Thanx pt, should the test e and tren e be split into 2 shots a week also, and can they be shot together?

    should i use the armidex the whole way through cycle or just for pct?

    Thanx for the input bro
    split and shoot together. as for the armidex, its your choice. i run .25mgs thru every cycle to keep th water down and it works awesome then i run .5mgs during pct
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    Smile nice one

    Thanx pt .

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    [QUOTE=ryan1212;4152061]
    Quote Originally Posted by PT View Post

    Thanx pt, should the test e and tren e be split into 2 shots a week also, and can they be shot together?

    should i use the armidex the whole way through cycle or just for pct?

    would u leave the hcg out also?

    Thanx for the input bro
    i think hcg is a good idea tren is suppressive
    i would use letro on cycle because of tren

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    yeah i was thinking of running the hcg and letro anyway. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1212 View Post
    yeah i was thinking of running the hcg and letro anyway. thanks
    the cycle you proposed is spot on as long as you understand when pct starts
    post up the pct weeks relative to cycle weeks

    test 400mg-600mg
    tren 300mg-500mg
    masteron 400mg-800mg

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    He already posted a PCT 189...

    Matter of fact, its YOUR PCT... looks like he just cut and paste it, not sure if he took the time to read the whole thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    He already posted a PCT 189...

    Matter of fact, its YOUR PCT... looks like he just cut and paste it, not sure if he took the time to read the whole thing...
    yeah but he didnt write the weeks correctly relative to the cycle thats what i was lookin for

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    Gotcha!

    Well will see if he puts it all together properly...

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    Yeah i got the whole cycle idea from 189

    How does this look lads?

    1-10 TEST E 500mg PER WEEK (SPLIT INTO 2 SHOTS)

    1-8 TREN 100mg 3 SHOTS A WEEK

    1-10 MASTERON 100 mg EOD


    (Shoot all 3 together when possible from same syringe? Rotate shots, glutes, delts, quads)


    P.C.T

    8-10 :hcg 500iu 2x a week
    12-16: nolva 20mg ed
    12-16: clomid 25mg
    12-16: proviron 50mg ed

    (i'll get armidex also to keep on hand)
    Last edited by ryan1212; 08-25-2008 at 01:09 AM.

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    Why would you keep armidex on hand?

    You need Letro not adex...

    And HCG should be for 4wks...

    I aassume your using Tren E and Mast E correct?

    If you are (which you should) then yes you can load them all together...

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    4 weeks on hcg is too much
    2-3 weeks is suitable
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    What do you mean i disagree with 189?

    He recommend 4 wks as well...

    HCG crash course
    crash course in HCG


    And 4 weeks is not too much, it is totally fine...

    For this particular cycle especially! Maybe a Test E/dbol cycle sure, 2 weeks is good!

    But for Prop, Mast, and most importantly Tren , 4 weeks in optimum!

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    personally i never reccomend letro unless someone is extremly gyno prone but thats your choice. as for hcg , if you want to run it then do it for the last 2 weeks of the cycle and the first week of pct(3 weeks total) at somewere around 250-500ius 3 times a week. after that just hit up your normal pct for the following 3 weeks.
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    THATS MY PCT lol JK

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    OK, No rhino i got the pct from 189 but its maybe yours also i dunno. There's a difference of opinion on this course so i put it together like this:
    does anyone disagree?

    Thanx for the input lads.



    1-10 TEST E 500mg PER WEEK (SPLIT INTO 2 SHOTS)

    1-8 TREN E 100mg 3 SHOTS A WEEK

    1-10 MASTERON E 100 mg EOD

    .25 Letro ed



    (Shoot all 3 together when possible from same syringe? Rotate shots, glutes, delts, quads)


    P.C.T

    9-12 :hcg 250iu 3x a week
    12-16: nolva 20mg ed
    12-16: Letro .5 ed
    12-16: proviron 50mg ed


    I have had signs of minor gyno starting on 2 previous occasions ( just a small lump and itchyness, but it cleared up in a matter of days with nolva).

    That is why i think i should use letro this time as a preventetive action.

    I reckon if using HCG for 3 weeks and run letro the whole way through i shouldn't need clomid?

    thanks... peace.
    Last edited by ryan1212; 08-25-2008 at 11:30 AM.

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    You shouldnt run letro in PCT bro...

    Have you read on how is has an estrogen rebound effect?

    i like to run HCG @500iu 2Xw, but to each's own

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    You shouldnt run letro in PCT bro...

    Have you read on how is has an estrogen rebound effect?

    i like to run HCG @500iu 2Xw, but to each's own
    Yeah i,m gonna run letro in my pct and through the cycle, .5 mg during pct. I started to develope the gyno last time i used hcg which is why i'll keep the dosage down. thanx

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    Alright, best of luck on your cycle brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1212 View Post
    How does this look lads?

    1-10 TEST E 500mg PER WEEK (SPLIT INTO 2 SHOTS)

    1-8 TREN 100mg 3 SHOTS A WEEK

    1-10 MASTERON 100 mg EOD


    (Shoot all 3 together when possible from same syringe? Rotate shots, glutes, delts, quads)


    P.C.T

    8-10 :hcg 500iu 2x a week
    12-16: nolva 20mg ed
    12-16: clomid 25mg
    12-16: proviron 50mg ed

    (i'll get armidex also to keep on hand)
    1-10 TEST E 500mg PER WEEK (SPLIT INTO 2 SHOTS)
    1-8 TREN 100mg enanthate ? 2x a week. make the dose higher
    1-10 MASTERON 100 mg every day, or dont use it

    its okay to rotate

    P.C.T

    11-14 :hcg 500iu 2x a week
    13-16: nolva 20mg ed
    13-16: clomid 25mg
    13-16: proviron 50mg ed

    you need letro, not arimidex

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1212 View Post
    Yeah i,m gonna run letro in my pct and through the cycle, .5 mg during pct. I started to develope the gyno last time i used hcg which is why i'll keep the dosage down. thanx
    no!!

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    Ok i know ur prob pissed of with this cycle now!

    This is it , no letro in pct now i read the thread thanks 189.




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    1-10 TEST E 500mg PER WEEK (SPLIT INTO 2 SHOTS)
    1-8 TREN 150mg enanthate ? 2x a week
    1-10 MASTERON 100 mg every day
    .25 letro ed?

    rotate

    P.C.T

    11-14 :hcg 500iu 2x a week
    13-16: nolva 20mg ed
    13-16: clomid 25mg
    13-16: proviron 50mg ed

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    hey war

    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    You shouldnt run letro in PCT bro...

    Have you read on how is has an estrogen rebound effect?

    i like to run HCG @500iu 2Xw, but to each's own
    Didnt read your post right yesterday bro, thanks for the info about letro.

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