2nd cycle. Tren only or Tren + Test?

[Jockjack]

I'm planning my second cycle.

My first one was 10 weeks Test E 500mg EW with 4 weeks of Dbol 40mg ED.

I wanna pack on a lot of mass this cycle so my choice is to go for Trenbolone.

Week 1-12: Trenbolone E 400mg EW

Or
Week 1-10: Trenbolone E 400mg EW
Week 1-10: Testosteron E 500mg EW

PCT with nolvadex.

Thanks.

[BadBarbie]

OOO000oOOO you are about to get yelled at.

If you really are thinking about running a cycle without test, you are going to get chewed out about not reading before you post. Just a little fyi heads up.

Test is the basis of all good cycles (for guys).

[Jockjack]

The reason for posting this is because a friend of mine got very good results with Tren only.

But on the other hand. Stacked with test might be to heavy for a second cycle? I'm not sure.

[one8nine]

The reason for posting this is because a friend of mine got very good results with Tren only.

But on the other hand. Stacked with test might be to heavy for a second cycle? I'm not sure.

*Suppress – Decrease natural testosterone production
*Shut down – Completely stop natural testosterone production
*Testosterone – Testosterone is necessary for other functions in the human body other than muscular and cellular development. Without it, one could potentially have problems sexually, mentally, and physically. The body has a system called the LH feedback loop. The more androgenic hormones that you have in your body, the less your body will feel the need to produce any testosterone at all. Basically, the point is Testosterone is necessary in almost any cycle, except a short DHT cycle (which will be explained later). 19nors should never be taken without test. This also illustrates why PCT is necessary.
*my (one8nine's) starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352741

[Jockjack]

Thanks. I will go for test then.

Week 1-10: Trenbolone E 400mg EW
Week 1-10: Testosteron E 500mg EW

PCT with Nolvadex and Chlomid.

[one8nine]

Thanks. I will go for test then.

Week 1-10: Trenbolone E 400mg EW
Week 1-10: Testosteron E 500mg EW

PCT with Nolvadex and Chlomid.

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tren needs to be cut 1 or 2 weeks before test e
you know to inject 2x a week?

chlomid? clomid?
tha pct sucks
you dont seem ready to cycle at all

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

[WARMachine]

I agree... No AI's huh? and no letro on cycle with Tren?

You sir need to do some more research!