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    Thumbs up 2nd cycle help plz

    stats first..
    190lbs --- 5'8" --- 12% --- 1cycle of test enan only --- male --- 39yo
    Here's what i have got stashed..
    8X 250mg/cc Sustanon vials
    20X 250mg/cc Test En vials
    2X 250mg/cc Test En 10cc bottles
    23X 50mg Dbols
    50X 10mg Anavar (prob not enuff of them..?)
    Heaps of nolvadex and HCG
    75 tabs of Exemestane 25mg

    I want to run min 12 weeks, here's what i'm thinking..
    wk 1-14 test en @ 250mg E3D
    wk 1-4 Dbols @ 25mg ED
    wk 2-14 500mg HCG E7D (is this ok??)
    wk 16-19 Nolva @ 40, 40, 20, 20

    Couple of Qs, how does the AI fit in proporly? I can't get hold of any more of it for this cycle so i'm thinking 25mg ED from start of week 2, is that ok?
    I can't get anymore Anavar so shall i save it or use it somehow, at the end perhaps??
    The sustanon is an optional extra but can anyone tell me if it's ok to use it up by alternating 8 shots (anywhere in the cycle). eg, test - sust -test - sust etc..?
    Thanks for any advice fellas!

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    You could start the cycle using some sustanon to get going faster than the test e. But you would still need to take you test e shots too. Its not really needed though if your kicking off with the dbols. Also leave the anavar out get more at some point and use it in a future cycle. You should have an ai and serm in your pct as well.

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    bro the hcg isnt nessesary through out the cycle like that,at most use it wk7 500ui ed and then again at wks15&16,dont need to use 40mg of nolva use 20mg,but id add something like proviron to my pct @50mg everydaywk16-19,save the anavar it'l be a waste if thats all you got,i dont have much experience with exemstane its not essentail to use and AI during a cycle but if you start to see some sides start using it at 25mg ed

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    Big cycle for a second one. I would save the SUS and the var for another time. I wouldn't run the SUS at the beggining as advised above if you are running the dbol to jump start. If you really want to use the SUS, use it the last 2 weeks of your cycle with the test E. I love an add at the end of a cycle. HCG from week 2 isn't needed. Most likely mid cycle and end of cycle but its really dependent on your shrinkage.
    You did a TEST-E only cycle on the first and thats perfect. Now you know how your body responds to test. Just add dbol this time and see how that works. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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    Drop the hcg and up the d-bol to 40mg's IMO.

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    Been told to run an AI. Prevention better that cure.. that and eliminating estrogen up to a point, helps with PCT recovery. At least this is what i've been told.
    Testigator do you really think this is a big cycle, thought it basic really, test n Dbol.
    Thanks to all of you, given me food for thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-boosted View Post
    stats first..
    190lbs --- 5'8" --- 12% --- 1cycle of test enan only --- male --- 39yo
    Here's what i have got stashed..
    8X 250mg/cc Sustanon vials
    20X 250mg/cc Test En vials
    2X 250mg/cc Test En 10cc bottles
    23X 50mg Dbols
    50X 10mg Anavar (prob not enuff of them..?)
    Heaps of nolvadex and HCG
    75 tabs of Exemestane 25mg

    I want to run min 12 weeks, here's what i'm thinking..
    wk 1-14 test en @ 250mg E3D
    wk 1-4 Dbols @ 25mg ED
    wk 2-14 500mg HCG E7D (is this ok??)
    wk 16-19 Nolva @ 40, 40, 20, 20

    Couple of Qs, how does the AI fit in proporly? I can't get hold of any more of it for this cycle so i'm thinking 25mg ED from start of week 2, is that ok?
    I can't get anymore Anavar so shall i save it or use it somehow, at the end perhaps??
    The sustanon is an optional extra but can anyone tell me if it's ok to use it up by alternating 8 shots (anywhere in the cycle). eg, test - sust -test - sust etc..?
    Thanks for any advice fellas!
    your cycle is okay
    the hcg and pct suck
    what AI? you dont have an AI?
    dont use the sust
    hcg is dosed in iu not mg

    hcg crash course
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

    my pct
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

    estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

    how to dose your drugs
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4150809

    edit:
    oh i see you have aromasin
    use your aromasin in pct
    you need arimidex or letro on cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    You could start the cycle using some sustanon to get going faster than the test e. But you would still need to take you test e shots too.
    this is not a good option at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-boosted View Post
    Been told to run an AI. Prevention better that cure.. that and eliminating estrogen up to a point, helps with PCT recovery. At least this is what i've been told.
    Testigator do you really think this is a big cycle, thought it basic really, test n Dbol.
    Thanks to all of you, given me food for thought
    i completely agree with everything in this post.
    prevention, easy pct, simple cycle

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    I do have an AI, it's the one you recommend in that sticky (i've read it). I have 72 tabs of exe... ok aromastin. 25mg each.
    What's up with the PCT? This is standard no? In the sticky it says 20-40..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-boosted View Post
    I do have an AI, it's the one you recommend in that sticky (i've read it). I have 72 tabs of exe... ok aromastin. 25mg each.
    What's up with the PCT? This is standard no? In the sticky it says 20-40..
    well aromasin is GREAT just very expensive.
    if you wanna use it on cycle AND pct its fine.
    but i was suggesting you use the aromasin you have in pct and get something cheap for cycle.
    either way youre short some aromasin.
    the pct nolva is okay but the problem is its ONLY nolva
    you have too much hcg

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    Got ya. Cheers 189

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    Ahh crap, yr right! I only got enuff aromasin for 11 weeks aggh did my math wrong lol
    I do have 120mls of letrozole, 2.5 per ml. I didn't say before because i thought incorporating it would be overkill...
    Would you consider using a small dose of this and adding the aromasin into PCT?

    Think i'll go over your pct thread one more time ;-)

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    you can use your letro at .25mg ed on cycle but I would stick to your aromasin for PCT as Letro can cause an estrogen rebound. Some people have claimed to just hold letro on hand and not actually take it unless/until they felt gyno coming on.

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