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I am interested in adding Tren E to my cycle but I have found several conflicting dosing ideas. Below is my 12 wk cycle plan. Any suggestions and advice on adding Tren E and the dosage would be appreciated.
Weeks 1-12
Test E - 500mg/wk
Eq - 400mg/wk
Arimidex - .5mg/day
Weeks 5-12
Winstrol - 50mg/day (may sub var for winstrol?)
6 Weeks PCT:
Arimidex - 20mg/day (weeks 1-3)
Nolvadex - 20mg/day
HCG - 500iu/day
What are your stats?
and cycle history
I am 32. 6'0" 200lbsQuote:
Originally Posted by johnnybigguns
14-16%BF
BF is high I know but I am almost done rehabing from back surgery and I plan to restart my diet and heavy cardio as soon as I am released. Won't start my cycle until I get my BF back around 10-12% and diet back where I want it.
Whats your cycle history?
This will be my 3rd cycleQuote:
Originally Posted by Mammon
First cycle was Test E only at 500mg/wk for 10 wks
Second cycle was identical to the one I listed in the post with a few differences in the PCT
One other thing. I have read a lot of rage about var and its fat cutting ability as opposed to winstrol. Any thoughts?
Regardless of AAS experience, the addition of Trenbolone will significantly hinder your capacity for this "Cardio heavy" gameplan.
Test/EQ/Var or Winny would be great for endurance and your goals.
IMO I would drop the EQ its pretty week.
And if you wanted to try tren e I would try it at 350mg per week.
But it is suggested for a first tren run to use tren ace just encase the sides are bad.
Also I wouldn't run arimidex through the cycle unless you need it for sides.
Aand I would start it at .25 EOD
It seems that this debate is ultimately, user dependant. You'd have to try each separately at a respectable dosage for 6-8 weeks to gauge for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by power10er
You think EQ is just weak overall or the dosage I have is too weak? I can sub decca?
I use the arimidex mostly for my own peace of mind that I am at least making attempt to help with the sides. To be honest I am not certain if it helped or if I just am not one to be very succeptable to the sides?? Also I think it helps somewhat with the water retention and has a hardening effect also??
I wont be doing the heavy cardio during my cycle. That will be before my cycle to get my BF and endurance back to where it was before surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lean1038
this is the way id run this stuff..Quote:
Originally Posted by power10er
eq 1-12
test e 1-13
winny 10-15
jump right on pct..
i run hcg through the cycle but you could run it the last few weeks but id stop before you start any pct meds.
pct nlovadex and clomid.
have no issues with running the adex through the cycle.. i use .25 ed
with the tren e in run
tren e 1-10
test e 1-12
winny 9-14
So you suggest I do not run the HCG with my PCT? That is news to me. Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mammon
One other quick question:
Should I decrease my dosages and extend the cycle? I am not very interested in putting on massive contest muscle and size. I am more interested in moderate lean muscle and cutting.
Add clomid to your pct
100/50/50/50
What would be your injection schedule for this:
12 weeks
Test E - 500mg/wk
Eq - 400mg/wk
Quote:
Originally Posted by power10er
by using HCG during PCT you are mimicking LH to stimulate testosterone levels. this also sends a signal to the body that you have enough LH to stimulate testosterone production. So now you body thinks it's producing enough LH. thus hindering recovery.. jmo
Quote:
Originally Posted by power10er
200mg eq / 250mg test e twice a week.. say monday and thursday
Makes sense. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mammon
Quote:
Originally Posted by power10er
somewhere between 300-500mg per wk. spit in 2xper wk injects.
EXACTLY......I'm glad somebody else realizes this.your body won't start producing it's natural testosterone until the hcg has cleared your system which is 2 weeks,therfore starting pct 2 weeks after last shot of hcg will allow you to get the benefit from the whole length of your pct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mammon