Absolute best bulking and cutting cycle?

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04-15-2009, 11:23 AM
manwitplans

Absolute best bulking and cutting cycle?

What is your favorite choice of:

- Bulking cycle
- Cutting cycle

Stacking and no stacking, depends on what you like.
04-15-2009, 11:26 AM
boxer1

best cutter would be what i'm running now
1-12 prop 100mg/day
1-12 tren a 75mg/day
6-12 mast 100mg/day
this will be my 2nd time round with this cycle, awesome results 1st time
04-15-2009, 11:29 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxer1

best cutter would be what i'm running now
1-12 prop 100mg/day
1-12 tren a 75mg/day
6-12 mast 100mg/day
this will be my 2nd time round with this cycle, awesome results 1st time

That one sounds really good :D
Would be hella expensive here though!
A effective one I am sure!
04-15-2009, 11:45 AM
Noles12

Good bulking is
12 weeks Test E 500mg/week
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg/day

or

Test and Deca Cycle
04-15-2009, 11:46 AM
DSM4Life

A good diet.
04-15-2009, 11:48 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

A good diet.

Ofcourse, but when I think of cycle I always think that people have their shit together, sadly I am more wrong then I am right.
04-15-2009, 11:54 AM
DSM4Life

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanTheMan

Ofcourse, but when I think of cycle I always think that people have their shit together, sadly I am more wrong then I am right.

Just because a cycle or stack works for someone else doesn't mean its going to work for you. You need to experiment on your own. You haven't even given us your cycle experience. What is it ?

Stick with test 500mg shot 2x a week for 12 and see how it effects you. Stacking in the beginning is stupid IMO.
04-15-2009, 12:06 PM
MMArmour

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Just because a cycle or stack works for someone else doesn't mean its going to work for you.

I agree with this.

You can anticipate a general outcome but not specified results.
04-15-2009, 12:22 PM
boxer1

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Just because a cycle or stack works for someone else doesn't mean its going to work for you. You need to experiment on your own. You haven't even given us your cycle experience. What is it ?

Stick with test 500mg shot 2x a week for 12 and see how it effects you. Stacking in the beginning is stupid IMO.

this is all true but i don't think hes after advice just how people run their fav cycles, and it would be intersting to see the bulkers or cutters that have worked best for people.
04-15-2009, 12:24 PM
DSM4Life

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxer1

this is all true but i don't think hes after advice just how people run their fav cycles, and it would be intersting to see the bulkers or cutters that have worked best for people.

Thats fine. I am just here to make it known that just because it works for one person doesn't mean its going to work for another.

I am just looking out for the noob that comes to this post, sees a stack, then says to himself "i am going to do this to get big."
Ain't gonna happen.
04-15-2009, 12:40 PM
boxer1

i completly see your point mate but does that mean we never discuss our best tried and tested cycles incase a noob reads and copys it? If the're gonna copy a cycle they could find 100s of awful cycles on this board, check out that craziest cycle thread by g force, interesting thread but some of the listed cycles are mental.
04-15-2009, 01:06 PM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Just because a cycle or stack works for someone else doesn't mean its going to work for you. You need to experiment on your own. You haven't even given us your cycle experience. What is it ?

Stick with test 500mg shot 2x a week for 12 and see how it effects you. Stacking in the beginning is stupid IMO.

I haven't cycled, just looking for shits and kicks

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMArmour

I agree with this.

You can anticipate a general outcome but not specified results.

Yep that I assume would be true since we are all different, but nonetheless it would be fun to see what different kinds of people love to do, ey

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxer1

this is all true but i don't think hes after advice just how people run their fav cycles, and it would be intersting to see the bulkers or cutters that have worked best for people.

Spot on

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Thats fine. I am just here to make it known that just because it works for one person doesn't mean its going to work for another.

I am just looking out for the noob that comes to this post, sees a stack, then says to himself "i am going to do this to get big."
Ain't gonna happen.

There is enough bad posts on this board for that to happen anytime, I would not worry. If this post gets inputs on like stacks of three steroids, but reasonable dosages, those cycles would be better then much of the cycles people post here (those poeple asking to do a dbol cycle, and so on), you get the picture

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxer1

i completly see your point mate but does that mean we never discuss our best tried and tested cycles incase a noob reads and copys it? If the're gonna copy a cycle they could find 100s of awful cycles on this board, check out that craziest cycle thread by g force, interesting thread but some of the listed cycles are mental.

Yep
04-15-2009, 04:40 PM
inky-e

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanTheMan

What is your favorite choice of:

- Bulking cycle
- Cutting cycle

Stacking and no stacking, depends on what you like.

Bulk...HGH/TEST/TREN
Cut TEST/Masteron
This has been my peresonal experience and results.
04-16-2009, 06:49 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by inky-e

Bulk...HGH/TEST/TREN
Cut TEST/Masteron
This has been my peresonal experience and results.

Cool, so no tren for you on a cutter?
Or HGH? Sounds like both would be good choices for a cuttting aswell. Chime in on this one inky ;)
04-16-2009, 07:13 AM
bakingcakes27

bulk = test(cyp or enth), tren, bulk diet

cut = test(any), anavar,prob throw some wini low carb/high protein diet with tons of cardio.
04-16-2009, 07:18 AM
Dukkit

bulking...
any Test.
tren ran at 700mg

cutting...
any Test.
tren ran at 350mg
04-16-2009, 07:27 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by bakingcakes27

bulk = test(cyp or enth), tren, bulk diet

cut = test(any), anavar,prob throw some wini low carb/high protein diet with tons of cardio.

Cool, why come you don't like tren on cutting?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

bulking...
any Test.
tren ran at 700mg

cutting...
any Test.
tren ran at 350mg

Hmm, interesting.
What dosage of TEST at bulking or cutting then?
And why less tren on cutting then bulking? :)
04-16-2009, 08:41 AM
Dukkit

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanTheMan

Hmm, interesting.
What dosage of TEST at bulking or cutting then?
And why less tren on cutting then bulking? :)

i usually run my test low when i run tren.
at about 350mg of test week, maybe 400

ive noticed i get less sides from the tren and still the same gains with lower test.

running the tren lower for cutting is basically all for mental reasons....
the tren will help keep your strength while your cutting. which we all know can suffer from lack of calories and shit loads of cardio.

it will also not cause any sides for most ppl at that dose. and the last thing you want when your cutting and starving and craving all those carbs ( i know i get miserable when im cutting) is dealing with the stress of sides.

also at higher doses of tren it really affects my cardio. walking up steps becomes a chore. so for cutting you dont need anything hindering your cardio sessions and making them harder.

and tren is just god like. it helps make me harder and keep fat off, and makes my veins pop out like whoa. so while your cutting all those are huge pluses
04-16-2009, 08:46 AM
vpchill

Can anyone help me out? What is best Oral only Cycle?
04-16-2009, 08:51 AM
johnnybigguns

test/deca/tren both ways
04-16-2009, 08:52 AM
johnnybigguns

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpchill

Can anyone help me out? What is best Oral only Cycle?

Orals alone aren't good.
04-16-2009, 08:54 AM
vpchill

Thank you for Responding. My issue is there is so much crap out there I dont just wanna stick myself with garbage. Any suggestions? Whats the safest bet and in what cylce? Im looking to bulk a little then cut.
04-16-2009, 08:56 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

i usually run my test low when i run tren.
at about 350mg of test week, maybe 400

ive noticed i get less sides from the tren and still the same gains with lower test.

running the tren lower for cutting is basically all for mental reasons....
the tren will help keep your strength while your cutting. which we all know can suffer from lack of calories and shit loads of cardio.

it will also not cause any sides for most ppl at that dose. and the last thing you want when your cutting and starving and craving all those carbs ( i know i get miserable when im cutting) is dealing with the stress of sides.

also at higher doses of tren it really affects my cardio. walking up steps becomes a chore. so for cutting you dont need anything hindering your cardio sessions and making them harder.

and tren is just god like. it helps make me harder and keep fat off, and makes my veins pop out like whoa. so while your cutting all those are huge pluses

Good info there, thorough :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

test/deca/tren both ways

So how is it doing two NOR`s? Adding sideeffects to the usual tren or deca side`s? I actually heard this cycle a couple of times and people just get freaky on this kind of cycle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpchill

Can anyone help me out? What is best Oral only Cycle?

Yep, testostorone only 500mg per week.
04-16-2009, 08:57 AM
vpchill

testosterone only? Oral?
04-16-2009, 08:58 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpchill

Thank you for Responding. My issue is there is so much crap out there I dont just wanna stick myself with garbage. Any suggestions? Whats the safest bet and in what cylce? Im looking to bulk a little then cut.

If you can't get real injectable steroids, chances are that you won't get real orals either, and oral cycle is a bad idea, do your time in the research departments like many other smart AAS users have done, seriously you'll save yourself a world of hurt, nothing like a scawny mofo going on a dbol cycle and gaining 20 pounds of water and loosing all of it ;)
04-16-2009, 08:58 AM
tims1

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxer1

best cutter would be what i'm running now
1-12 prop 100mg/day
1-12 tren a 75mg/day
6-12 mast 100mg/day
this will be my 2nd time round with this cycle, awesome results 1st time

injecting twice a day! i dont like doing it more than twice a week
04-16-2009, 08:59 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpchill

testosterone only? Oral?

Inject

Quote:

Originally Posted by tims1

injecting twice a day! i dont like doing it more than twice a week

hmm, why do you think twice a day?
Can't he just do it once per day?

Is one of those steroids waterbased, or what?
04-16-2009, 09:03 AM
Dukkit

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanTheMan

Good info there, thorough :)

So how is it doing two NOR`s? Adding sideeffects to the usual tren or deca side`s? I actually heard this cycle a couple of times and people just get freaky on this kind of cycle.

.

thanks. i try

and running 2 19-nors doesnt mean it equals to deca sides on top of tren sides.

someone else on here explained it on the terms of... if tren has a 60 percent affect (for sides) and deca has a 20% affect... then running them both together wont equal 80%. it will still only equal 60

get me?

and yes... from everyone i know who has done it... running both together is supposed to be awesome. its actually what i have planned for my next bulker. just need the money. lol
04-16-2009, 09:05 AM
vpchill

Thanx, Ive been Researching day and Night. Not sure what and where are the scams. Just trying to get the safest, Most effective cycle. Im already 245lbs. Turned 30 and feel ive reached my plateau. I have no personell references to go by. No One I know (personally) works out as I do.
So its a little bit of a Vague area for me.
04-16-2009, 09:09 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

thanks. i try

and running 2 19-nors doesnt mean it equals to deca sides on top of tren sides.

someone else on here explained it on the terms of... if tren has a 60 percent affect (for sides) and deca has a 20% affect... then running them both together wont equal 80%. it will still only equal 60

get me?

and yes... from everyone i know who has done it... running both together is supposed to be awesome. its actually what i have planned for my next bulker. just need the money. lol

Gotcha! Hehe, sounds like a good bulker, sounds really expensive though, especially if I were to do it here in Norway, talk about your moneydrain ;)
04-16-2009, 09:12 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpchill

Thanx, Ive been Researching day and Night. Not sure what and where are the scams. Just trying to get the safest, Most effective cycle. Im already 245lbs. Turned 30 and feel ive reached my plateau. I have no personell references to go by. No One I know (personally) works out as I do.
So its a little bit of a Vague area for me.

I would say if your looking for the safest (For your body) I would recommend a low dose testostorone (400-500mg per week), 10-12 weeks, good PCT and you'll be good to go.

Orals harm the body more then the injectables. Take for example dbol, it will lower your cholestrol (your good anyways) more then testostorone, and possibly damage your liver and your testo will be shot of and you won't have any of the hormone your gender is built in your bloodstream, you do the math.

Manup, do a real cycle, and none of the "steroids" on the internet are real (atleast 99,9% of them, so get contacts and do it in the realworld if your going to do it.

You've done research and you ask about oral only cycle, don't be messin with me now.
04-16-2009, 09:21 AM
vpchill

Lol. I am still learning. Didnt say I was a Professor, Im still a student
04-16-2009, 09:46 AM
johnnybigguns

I have seen it alot where guys like test deca tren cycle. If you search you will see it alot.
04-16-2009, 10:02 AM
dsprad11

Hey guys been reading the forums for awhile but never posted anything before. I have a couple of questions about getting lean.

I'm 25, 5'6" and 155. My bf is around 10%. I can get it to Around 8% but I can't seem to keep it there due to the strict diet and intensity of the workouts.

My questions are:

1) Is there any particular roid I could stay on year round to boost my intensity in the gym and efficiency of the fat burning process? (My goal isn't to gain mass just maintain a lean six pack physique.)

2) Is there any legit HGH enhancers or are they all bogus?
04-16-2009, 10:05 AM
manwitplans

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsprad11

hey guys been reading the forums for awhile but never posted anything before. I have a couple of questions about getting lean.

I'm 25, 5'6" and 155. My bf is around 10%. I can get it to around 8% but i can't seem to keep it there due to the strict diet and intensity of the workouts.

My questions are:

1) is there any particular roid i could stay on year round to boost my intensity in the gym and efficiency of the fat burning process? (my goal isn't to gain mass just maintain a lean six pack physique.)

no, all about diet and training (cardio and weight training)

2) is there any legit hgh enhancers or are they all bogus?

bogus

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