back down the dark path

[hardlx]

i have decided to go down a dark path one i haven't been down for over 15 years

my original plan was dee-ball and EQ but it was suggested i stick with a straight test cyp/eth fist time back around with novo of course

back in the day i was prone to gyno so i did EQ mostly

im 39yrs
255lbs
6'4''
bench max 275
cardio and blood-work is all ok

some input would be great

thanks

my best

[chuckt12345]

Welcome,

start reading alot of the stickies up top to get familiar with everything.
Then its easier to understand what everyone will be telling you.

[The Deuce]

You can start by not calling it the DARKSIDE... i HATE when people call it that... un-cool.. but other than that ... WELCOME and start researching and learning all you can... there's a lot to know and more to practice.. such as Diet and such... but at 39 you should go to your Doc and get your Test levels checked because more often than not your Natty levels are more likely to be low so then TRT would be a welcome added bonus in your life...

[chuckt12345]

lol,, deuce you have bad exp with that word or something?

[hardlx]

trt ?? and thanks for the replys i eat well & train hard so it teste dee ball yes no or save it

[hardlx]

yes gyno prone so novo right off the bat till pct ???

[hardlx]

i cant find info on TRT if any one can send some info

thanks

[romo6]

You can start by not calling it the DARKSIDE... i HATE when people call it that... un-cool.. but other than that ... WELCOME and start researching and learning all you can... there's a lot to know and more to practice.. such as Diet and such... but at 39 you should go to your Doc and get your Test levels checked because more often than not your Natty levels are more likely to be low so then TRT would be a welcome added bonus in your life...

I agree, i hate that too.

[WARMachine]

"Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT by WARMachine"
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916


That includes everything youll need to know about ERSEs and how to prevent and treat them.

As well as my opinions on PCT.

Give it a read.

[WARMachine]

Stick with test E for 12 weeks...I would also get Aromasin 10mg ED to help control estro. EQ is weak as hell and worthless in my opinion. I would run Novaldex and Aromasin for PCT. 25mgs Aromasin...50mg Nov for 1wk than 25mgs for 2-6wk. Are you prog or estro gyno prone?

Nolva and Aromasin? No Clomid or Tam?

If youre running an AI during the cycle, i dont see a point in running one during PCT.

[hardlx]

so at my age some are suggesting TRt i found it I THINK its free in canada with health plan

[Necrosaro]

Deuce is Luke so he hates the darkside :P

Good luck with the cycle hardlx, keep us posted

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

so at my age some are suggesting TRt i found it I THINK its free in canada with health plan

you dont HAVE to go on TRT, what i would do is get a script from a doc if you can, but just use it as you would normally to cycle rather then being on a low dose for the rest of your life

[WARMachine]

so at my age some are suggesting TRt i found it I THINK its free in canada with health plan

Yeah its worth having a doctor check.

Also, whats the BF%?

Being 255 with a bench of only 275, raises some flags.

Whats the workout split look like?

[hardlx]

day 1 back
2/ chest
3/ off
4/ arms
5/ legs
6/ shoulders
my strength has gone down and im prob 20 over weight eat well and have a hard time with bloating strength
i just called my doc doing some new tests for low test my moods also go up down lately

at 25 i use to get 5 clean sets of 6 with 315-325 so its sucking right now i also took about 8 years off some hard living glad thats over with

[hardlx]

doc says if test low he will script i work f'ked up hours so appt's are hare to make hows the split and i seam to get weaker not stronger lately

[hardlx]

so do my cycle see the doc or do TRT and a cycle ??? its all new and my gains suck right now so im getting a little frustrated
diet issues maybe so,me days im feel regular other days bloated tired moodie

[WARMachine]

I dont think that workout split is very good imo.

And like you said im sure a new diet couldnt hurt.

Why dont you go by the diet and workout sections and get those worked on.

Workout Section
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

Diet Help
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355744

Diet Section
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

Choosing Diets
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

[hardlx]

thanks for all the input WAR you have been a great help
im going for blood work tomorrow and if my test low and i start TRT caN I STILL CYCLE

so you know i was off for a year car accident and then i got to like my meds so it took over a year to get well