A question about Test E

I have been working out for a little more then 3 years. for the past two I have been working on a 5 day split and I have gained some pretty good results. I have done it all natural for the most part as well, though I did do one round of creatine. I went from 135 at 16% to 160 at 9% which is what I am currently at. I am 5'10 and 22 years old.

My current maxes
bench: 215x3
squat: 315x3
Preacher: 90x5
bent row: 180x3
deadlift: 315x2

I have a pretty good diet, though I will admit I could do better. I eat roughly 4-5 meals a day, all high protein/carbs low fats. Unfortunately, I haven't got the technique of splitting my carbs and proteins up. I will have that solved before starting a stack.

My goal:

I want to be 175lbs at 7-8% bf. I don't really care about my maxes, but I want to achieve that weight and keep it at that body fat. I am at a natural plateau and I have been here for about 6-8months. I haven't gained or lost a lb in that long, and I am still eating plenty of calories that I should still be gaining weight.

My worries:

I am nervous about it noticing that I am doing steroids. I will use proper pct, etc. 500mg/w of test e for 10-12 weeks?

What results would I expect with something of this manner?

I have done a lot of reading, but I still have a ways to go before I run a cycle. I have no one local that I trust getting it from so yea.

Any help with results theories, etc would be greatly appreciated.

You need the diet forum, not ready for steroids yet lol...

500mg/wk of test e for 12 weeks.
shoot 250mg monday and thursday.


results depend on how strict you are with diet and working out.

my current diet is 3250 calories.

meal 1:
Protein shake made with
8ounces raw whole milk
2tbsp peanut butter
1 scoop whey
1/4 cup raw oats

meal 2:
4 egg whites
1/2 cup raw oats
1 banana (or other fruit)

meal 3:
8 ounces raw milk
1 scoop whey

meal 4:
chicken/tuna
1 cup brown rice
veggie

meal 5:
steak, other lean meat
potato
veggie

sometimes meal 6
protein shake as described in meal 3

My diet is pretty solid imo, but I am up for suggestions on that. I am more looking to see what I am looking at results on the gear.

I also take an organic natural multivite 3 times daily and natural fish oil 2x daily.

Workout: Current (subject to change)

Monday Chest:
Flat Bench
6-8 reps x 3
Decline Bench
6-8 reps x 3
Flat Dumbbell press
15 reps x 3
Decline Dumbbell press
15 reps x 3
Flat bench flys
30 reps x 3
Decline bench flys
30 reps x 3
Pushups
max x 3

Tuesday Back:
Weighted pullups
6-8 reps x 3
Bent rows
6-8 reps x 3
Upright rows
6-8 reps x 3
Lawn mowers
15 reps x 3
lat pull downs
15 reps x 3
Machine Rows
30 x 3
Pulley Cable Lat pulldowns
30 x 3

Wednesday Shoulders
Military Press
6-8 reps x 3
Dumbbell Shoulder press
6-8 reps x 3
Front, lateral, rear raises
15 reps x 3
Shrugs
heavy
6-8 reps x 3
light
15 reps x 3

Thursday legs/lower back
Deadlifts
6-8 reps x 3
squats
6-8 reps x 3
Good Mornings
15 reps x 3
leg extensions/curls
15 reps x 3
Lower back hypertensions
30 reps x 3
Calves
Heavy
6-8 reps x 5
light
20 reps x 3

Friday Arms
Preacher
6-8 reps x 3
SkullCrusher
6-8 reps x 3
Seated Dumbbell
15 reps x 3
Tri Pushdown
15 reps x 3
Reverse Curls
30 reps x 3
Kickbacks
30 reps x 3
That string on a stick
4 sets
forearm curls
4 sets

Wow.

Were about the same height, I am 5' 10" or 5' 11" (as I like to think lol)

Your 160 pounds! I know it may not sound great, but did you know that if you ate like you were on a cycle, for even a month, your weight would increase by quite alot?

I am at about 190 pounds, which actually is still not anywhere near enough for me!

What about, trying to get to 180 pounds and then starting a cycle? By the end of the cycle you should be over 200 pounds.

Hmm Bakie you do sound like you have done your reasearch.

I am interested though, seeing as were the same height, how long have you been eating 3200 calories per day? Because you really should be gaining from that at your weight.

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Originally Posted by bakie

Workout: Current (subject to change)

Monday Chest:
Flat Bench
6-8 reps x 3
Decline Bench
6-8 reps x 3
Flat Dumbbell press
15 reps x 3
Decline Dumbbell press
15 reps x 3
Flat bench flys
30 reps x 3
Decline bench flys
30 reps x 3
Pushups
max x 3

Tuesday Back:
Weighted pullups
6-8 reps x 3
Bent rows
6-8 reps x 3
Upright rows
6-8 reps x 3
Lawn mowers
15 reps x 3
lat pull downs
15 reps x 3
Machine Rows
30 x 3
Pulley Cable Lat pulldowns
30 x 3

Wednesday Shoulders
Military Press
6-8 reps x 3
Dumbbell Shoulder press
6-8 reps x 3
Front, lateral, rear raises
15 reps x 3
Shrugs
heavy
6-8 reps x 3
light
15 reps x 3

Thursday legs/lower back
Deadlifts
6-8 reps x 3
squats
6-8 reps x 3
Good Mornings
15 reps x 3
leg extensions/curls
15 reps x 3
Lower back hypertensions
30 reps x 3
Calves
Heavy
6-8 reps x 5
light
20 reps x 3

Friday Arms
Preacher
6-8 reps x 3
SkullCrusher
6-8 reps x 3
Seated Dumbbell
15 reps x 3
Tri Pushdown
15 reps x 3
Reverse Curls
30 reps x 3
Kickbacks
30 reps x 3
That string on a stick
4 sets
forearm curls
4 sets

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I only really looked at your chest work out but that is way to many sets and reps. 24 sets for chest. IMO way to much.

I didnt even see that lol.

If you can manage 24-30 reps of ANYTHING, your not lifting enough weight!

Up the weight, and do from 8-12 reps.

*edit.....Or go until failure, I usually always get to 8 reps, then if I feel I can do a few more, I will do it until failure.

i agree with matt you should try to get some more size natty try to get more real food instead of shakes i eat 6 regualr meals a day not counting shakes there are some good stickys in the diet forum with example diets but if your mind is made up use the cycle bigsexy posted

When it comes to the workout, I do 95% of my max for the 6-8 rep sets, i do 85% of my max for the 15 rep sets, and I do 70% of my max for the 30... It's just a new workout that I am trying out, and it's wasted me pretty good. My mind definitely isn't made up or not to do roids. I am not after a big boost either, just something to get me over this plateau, because it has me worked. I am just really looking into the hopes of getting 15 lean lbs. I am definitely checking out the diet section first, but I don't want fat weight and I really want it on by the beginning of September.

I have been eating 3k+ calories a day for a few years now. What is weird is that I can continue eating like that and not go to the gym for a week, but keep my eating on high. I will actually lose 5 or so pounds, which come back quick but it's rather odd.

Hmm that is odd, as 3200 calories is quite alot.

But if you want to grow, it just means you have to eat more.

Try adding 500 calories per day.

Bleh, that almost makes me sick thinking about it... I am already eating about every 3 hours. Is there a chance that it's because two of my meals are shakes? Maybe try and go an extra meal vs. and extra shake? Now that this thread has lost it's original course and is turning into questions about diets. :P