First cycle advice

[Expedia.cooom]

Age -25
Height -5'11"
Weight -187
Training- 1 hours boxing-cardio, 1 hours weights mon-fri.
BMI - 25%

Wk 1-12 Test e 500mg wk - Mon - Thursday shots
Wk 8-13 Winstrol 50mg ED
Starting pct 3 days after last dose of winstrol using nolvadex , 20mg ED for 2 weeks Followed by 10mg ED for 3 more weeks.I will be running arimidex at .25mg E3D while on cycle to keep estrogen sides down.

Should i keep running the Arimidex throughout PCT or just discontinue use once PCT begins.

I am just trying to get all the info i need before beggining, i still need to get my diet fully in check before starting. i have been reading the diet threads just need to find one that i can do and maintain, also what kind of supplements should i be taking alone side of this.. i have now Milk thistle, liver flush, ***** 3-6-9 fish oil, liquid multivitamin.

How much protein and glutamine should i be taking for my size.. is it 3g for every pound of body weight for protein?

And is it ok that i work construstion 8 hours a day?

[Expedia.cooom]

Bump

[*RAGE*]

run your win up to week 14 then start your pct

I dont run a dex unless it is needed

but would run clomid as well

clomid 100mg ed for two weeks then 50mg ed for two weeks
nolva 40mg ed two weeks then 20mg ed for two weeks..

no I will say it is better to run one compound during your first cycle to see how the body acts..

diet is the most important thing while on cycle and even off so post up your diet in the diet section and lets see how you eat, but looks like you did your home work bro,, good job..

[Big]

personally I would drop the winny for a first cycle.
if you are running the test e for 12 weeks, pct would start week 15, therefore if you ran the winny as you outlined then started pct as you outlined, you would be starting pct while you are still being suppressed by the test. you need to wait till all suppressive compounds have cleared taking the ester into consideration and start pct based off of that.
I like clomid and nolva for pct, and some times aromasin as well, a bit old school. I would only use the adex on cycle if sides called for it, I know personally I would not need it on that cycle, but everyone is different.

[*RAGE*]

let me add one more thing I would run some dbol for the first four weeks 30mg to 50mg ed hope this helps.

[sigman roid]

its all been said

[T-MOS]

How many times and threads do you need to ask the same questions??

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=388908

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=388938

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=390401

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As many as i would like to, isn't this a "Question and answers" thread im still doing research and am trying to get many different opinions as i can, i don't see anything wrong with asking questions. Everybody has different experiences with it, so i think it is a good idea to ask questions....

[T-MOS]

As many as i would like to, isn't this a "Question and answers" thread im still doing research and am trying to get many different opinions as i can, i don't see anything wrong with asking questions. Everybody has different experiences with it, so i think it is a good idea to ask questions....

Yes this IS a Q & A , but NOT when you make the same thread over and over again and that wastes board space......

whats wrong is you are asking the SAME Thing over and over, which is UNNECESSARY

[Expedia.cooom]

Again.. i am looking for multiple opinions.. unfortunately there is only a select few sites where i can obtain information and opinions on this topic, my intentions were to get more opinions and also get some info on glutemine and protein and also with my work schedule. I wouldn't go as far as saying its a waste of board space because we both know there is no shortage of that.


- Expedia ~.^

[Reed]

The advice as been the same throughout the threads. Test in with your winny

Seems like you need to learn about diet 3g of protein per lb is way too much. 1.5 grams at the most. Time to look into a diet as the drugs won't do the work for you and you'll acutally get fatter if you intake that amount of protein

Oral glutamine is worthless as well.

You say you have a BF% of 25. List your diet and training program if you want help.

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No i said my BMI is 25, its actually 24 but not much of a difference, my doctors office does not do BF% but i think my BF% is 12 or 13ish %. Amd as i stated earlier i do about 1 to 1.5 hours of boxing/MMA /day as well as 1 hour weight training.

[Reed]

Oh ok BMI, thats a bunch of junk. Does not take in account athletes.


Again post your current diet and training program, this is how you progress by adjusting those

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I go to bed usually between 9:30-10:30pm, I get up between 5:30 - 6:00am to go to work, i get home every day at 3:30pm, my training begins at 5:00pm and goes to 6:30, then I go do weights from 7:30pm to 9:00, go home shower stretch go to bed. In the morning i eat a big bowl of oatmeal with my ***** oil mixed in, some times i will have a hard boiled egg as well, i eat my lunch at work around 11:30, i usually have a chicken or tuna sandwich and fruit/veg on the side, supper is usually fish or chicken as well as salad i eat supper around 4;00pm, lots of water throughout day, sometimes i may pick throughout the day as well, my diet varys of coarse, but generally this is what i eat and when.

[Reed]

I go to bed usually between 9:30-10:30pm, I get up between 5:30 - 6:00am to go to work, i get home every day at 3:30pm, my training begins at 5:00pm and goes to 6:30, then I go do weights from 7:30pm to 9:00, go home shower stretch go to bed. In the morning i eat a big bowl of oatmeal with my ***** oil mixed in, some times i will have a hard boiled egg as well, i eat my lunch at work around 11:30, i usually have a chicken or tuna sandwich and fruit/veg on the side, supper is usually fish or chicken as well as salad i eat supper around 4;00pm, lots of water throughout day, sometimes i may pick throughout the day as well, my diet varys of coarse, but generally this is what i eat and when.

Do you not have a specific training split with specific exercise you do throughout the week.

Diet is your problem and why you are at those stats. You need to not maybe eat a boiled egg in the morning, You need to be eating 7-8 egg whites including your bowl of oatmeal and fats.

Lunch portion is small. A sandwich is not going to cut it, you need to know the amounts of meat you get in. Thats probably white bread you are eating.

Your carb sources should entail sweet potatoes, brown rice, oats etc. Not bread.

You are eating a diet that a normal American is accustomed too. If you want to look like a athlete you're gonna have to ditch that thinking. Portioned meals throughout the day, 6 meals with specific amount of cals, protein, carbs, and fat each day with a training program designed to reach your goals.

Seems you could put more effort into the basics first for a good while before getting on any juice.

Look at the diet forum and the example diets. Show me your workout split

You wanna progress right?? Welp this is how you do it

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Yup, i did say i am still trying to tweak my diet. Which is why i have been looking at the diet threads, ( i never eat white bread) i usually try to watch what i eat because i put weight on at an unrealistic rate.. way to fast, i just cant see myself eating that much food i have been trying to follow these diet plans with 6 meals a day but the thing is when i am doing that i feel very full all day long, i do try to count crabs-fat-calories-protein, and am still working on it.

[Reed]

Sometimes you just gotta man up and do what it takes


again your workout split through the week?

or do you not have one and just go in there and do what you feel like doing like you have done with the diet.

Juice should be out of the question for a long while now until you get the basics sorted out first

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Yup, i did say i am still trying to tweak my diet. Which is why i have been looking at the diet threads, ( i never eat white bread) i usually try to watch what i eat because i put weight on at an unrealistic rate.. way to fast, i just cant see myself eating that much food i have been trying to follow these diet plans with 6 meals a day but the thing is when i am doing that i feel very full all day long, i do try to count crabs-fat-calories-protein, and am still working on it. (And i am Canadian) ^.~

Also i do mainly eat sweet potatoes, when i do eat rice it is always brown or basmati, and oatmeal everyday. My problem is just eating THAT much 7-8 egg whites... first of all do i just scramble them and secondly thats alot i cant stomach that much food. egg beaters??? cause 8 eggs per day can be costly and possibly hard on my cholesterol. Or is the cholesterol in the yolk?

[Reed]

try liquid egg whites. Not whole eggs


you realize that diet is what causes you to grow.

i guess we don't have a workout routine??

[Reed]

The spots you should be in as this is becoming like pulling teeth

Diet: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

Read the stickies and then make a post.

Training: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

Read the Guidelines for Growth and also Various Training Techniques, then make a post if you would like help.



If you really want to progress you'll take the time to dial in the foundations. I didn't catch your edit where you added in what you do. Again it needs to be more specific.


Good luck

[Expedia.cooom]

Day 1

1a) Pull Up (Wide Grip) 5-7 reps 3 sets
superset 90 seconds rest between
1b) Barbell Military Press 5-7 reps 3 sets

2a) 1 Arm Dumbbell Row 5-7 reps 3 sets
superset 90 seconds rest between
2b) Bench Press 5-7 reps 3 sets

3) Parallel Bar Dip 5-7 reps 3 sets {adding weight as necessary}

Day 2

1) Squat 5-7 reps 2 sets then 20 reps 1 set

2) Barbell Shrug 5-7 reps 3 sets

3a) Standing Calf Raise 15-20 reps 3 sets
superset 90 seconds rest between
3b) Incline Dumbbell Curl 5-7 reps 3 sets

4) Dumbbell Reverse Wrist Curl 15-20 reps 3 sets

Day 3

1a) Chin Up 5-7 reps 3 sets
superset 90 seconds rest between
1b) Dumbbell Clean & Press 5-7 reps 3 sets

2a) Barbell Row 5-7 reps 3 sets
superset 90 seconds rest between
2b) Incline Dumbbell Press 5-7 reps 3 sets

3) Close Grip Bench Press 5-7 reps 3 sets

Day 4

1) Squat 8-10 reps 2 sets

2) Deadlift 5-7 reps 3 sets

3a) Cross Body Hammer Curl 5-7 reps 3 sets
superset 90 seconds rest between
3a) 1 Leg Seated Calf Raise 15-20 reps 3 sets

4) Behind Back Barbell Wrist Curl 5-7 reps 3 sets


i usually do what ever on Fridays


My boxing and MMA workouts are always different lots of sparring skipping plyometrics. push ups-sit ups-chinups, jump squats lunges ect ect...

[Reed]

thats a horrible routine. i can imagine your back going out on you real fast. you hit back everyday. squats tax your back, as does barbell rows and one arms row

thats pretty much doing whatever you feel like


go to the threads i gave you, you don't need steroids as your diet and training is out of whack


make more post down there, you need a major reconstruction on the way you go about EVERYTHING.

the threads i just gave will help as long as you take the time to research, read and not get your hand held