whats the deal with people on gear constantly for years

**hoop** · 12-08-2009, 12:52 PM

were i live there are 7 gyms within 15 -20 miles, most of the guys are and have been on the juice for a long period of time without stopping, some of the men are very competative people and 1 guy i know before competitions shoots some sort of oil in under his arm muscles to keep them blown out. i think its totally crazy. how can these men be on gear flat out and confirm with me that its ok to do so. i tell them about my 12 week courses and they say they never do courses

**MuscleScience** · 12-08-2009, 12:53 PM

Abuse at its finest, of course they will tell you otherwise. They just havent found the proper mixture of diet and training to offset their drug use.

**MisterMaster** · 12-08-2009, 12:56 PM

Some guys may have over-abused in their past and now have dead testicles. In that case, they'll have to take exogenous testosterone just to stay "normal".

Not a good thing.

I'd rather have normal testicles that do their job and have a great physique rather than have to inject myself with steroids for life to have a "slightly" better one.

**inky-e** · 12-08-2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by hoop

were i live there are 7 gyms within 15 -20 miles, most of the guys are and have been on the juice for a long period of time without stopping, some of the men are very competative people and 1 guy i know before competitions shoots some sort of oil in under his arm muscles to keep them blown out. i think its totally crazy. how can these men be on gear flat out and confirm with me that its ok to do so. i tell them about my 12 week courses and they say they never do courses

Its up to the individual as to what they do with or to their bodies...in the long run those guys that are always on...will pay the price in the future...unless they are on TRT or HRT...then they will be monitored by a doctor with bloodwork and such....also understand that like many other drugs..steroids can become an addiction.

**hoop** · 12-08-2009, 01:13 PM

yeah cheers guys i understand now, its abusing them and if they stop there natural test might never kick in again and what use is that

**inky-e** · 12-08-2009, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by hoop

yeah cheers guys i understand now, its abusing them and if they stop there natural test might never kick in again and what use is that

Its like the case with Jose Canseco...he was ON for about 20 years...in his documentary "Jose Canseco..The Last Shot"...he went to a doctor to check his natty test level and it was in the low 100's...he will most likely have to resume shooting test to get it within the normal range,... and thats forever...