teen use

[robmerke1]

hey guys. Im 18 years old and ive been considering steroids. i no most people are ganna have much negative comments to say but i came to this website to find out more in my research. ive been working out for the past 3 years and gained a total of 80 pounds. ive experimented with test booster 2 times and other supplements but none that have big effects. i consider myself someone who knows alot about working out and just want some more information about this. i come to u guys not to hear negative input but i come to hear the truth. Im looking to take it just once to put me over the edge for a couple of years. Im just looking for the effects if i take it just once at 18. any info about pre cycles and post cycles. Just looking for any info and the truth.

[MotoLifter]

the truth is that whoevers email address that is is gonna be pissed when they get scamed for AAS.

do some research like you said you came here to do. use the search button. there isnt a question about 18 yr olds using gear that hasnt been answered before. just take your time and read, there is enough info here to last you a year atleast. good luck.


Moto

[bjpennnn]

Marcus300
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.


this is the jist of why you should not.

[Bertuzzi]

Read this lenghty thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=415360

[robmerke1]

thanks a lot the both of you... but bjpennnn to be honest with you i havent grown in almost 2 years so there could be a chance that my growth plates could be sealed already. as far as the other effects, yea i mean they sound pretty serious and im always constantly being reminded of them but could it really effect me that bad if i only do it once and i do it right? i mean at the age of 18 im not looking to become a consistent steroid user.

[c-Z]

You know your too young... What do you want us to tell you? It is your body my friend... And in my honest opinion you are only setting yourself up for problems in the future.

[robmerke1]

You know your too young... What do you want us to tell you? It is your body my friend... And in my honest opinion you are only setting yourself up for problems in the future.

dude im hear for facts not opinions... i understand what ure trying to say and to be honest with u and u prob already no this but many people will agree with u but im also not saying here that im going to take them. ive came across the thought of them and just look for the some info. no one has yet gave me an answer to the effects to just using it ONCE. ive tried to look for research on that but most places just have the general outlook on it not just one time use.

[bjohnson1968]

You know your too young... What do you want us to tell you? It is your body my friend... And in my honest opinion you are only setting yourself up for problems in the future.

THIS IS FACT MY FRIEND C-Z's just telling you politely

there is no way at 18 yrs old you can convince me you cant gain with proper diet and hardwork

Peace

[jordann]

You've been training 3 years and put on 80 pounds? So you're telling us you're averaging almost 27 pounds a year? Do you know most bodybuilders average around 5 pounds of lean muscle mass per year? Anything higher than that is considered remarkable in my books.

You're making great natural gains. Don't **** it up just because you think steroids are an easy way out. From what you've presented us with, your genetics are beyond what any steroid user could ask for. Do yourself and your growing body a favor and stay natural.

[amcon]

hey guys. Im 18 years old and ive been considering steroids. i no most people are ganna have much negative comments to say but i came to this website to find out more in my research. ive been working out for the past 3 years and gained a total of 80 pounds. ive experimented with test booster 2 times and other supplements but none that have big effects. i consider myself someone who knows alot about working out and just want some more information about this. i come to u guys not to hear negative input but i come to hear the truth. Im looking to take it just once to put me over the edge for a couple of years. Im just looking for the effects if i take it just once at 18. any info about pre cycles and post cycles. Just looking for any info and the truth.

well

#1 - you have used "test booster" before have you ever done pct? hit search and find out why you need to do "pct"

#2 - 18 is way to young

#3 - you will get neg response cuz it deserves neg commnets..18=

#4 - ever one at 18 considers them selves "know it all on what ever they want to do" just understand we have knoledge and wisdome over you at 18

#5 - you dont do one cycle... and one cycle wont get you more than 15 lbs of muscle... so keep you natural way of growing till you hit around 25+

[MuscleScience]

hey guys. Im 18 years old and ive been considering steroids. i no most people are ganna have much negative comments to say but i came to this website to find out more in my research. ive been working out for the past 3 years and gained a total of 80 pounds. ive experimented with test booster 2 times and other supplements but none that have big effects. i consider myself someone who knows alot about working out and just want some more information about this. i come to u guys not to hear negative input but i come to hear the truth. Im looking to take it just once to put me over the edge for a couple of years. Im just looking for the effects if i take it just once at 18. any info about pre cycles and post cycles. Just looking for any info and the truth.

Do yourself a favor and reconsider your options. I would recommend that you spend at least a year learning, reading and asking question. Steroids are not magic beans by any means. Sure you could gain 20lbs from your first cycle but if you do things improperly, which is very easy. You may never gain a single pound over that again. Diet is almost 80-90% of this lifestyle the drugs are a very small part of that overall equation if you will.

I know you think you know a lot, but the true sign of intelligence is knowing just how much you do not yet understand. I am not going to tell you no no no, because if you want to do it you will. I am going to tell you to take a step back, read a lot more. Give yourself some time to ponder and then make an INFORMED DECISION.

[mulisa268]

Do yourself a favor and reconsider your options. I would recommend that you spend at least a year learning, reading and asking question. Steroids are not magic beans by any means. Sure you could gain 20lbs from your first cycle but if you do things improperly, which is very easy. You may never gain a single pound over that again. Diet is almost 80-90% of this lifestyle the drugs are a very small part of that overall equation if you will.

I know you think you know a lot, but the true sign of intelligence is knowing just how much you do not yet understand. I am not going to tell you no no no, because if you want to do it you will. I am going to tell you to take a step back, read a lot more. Give yourself some time to ponder and then make an INFORMED DECISION.

x2! well said

[BIG_GUNS_21]

This is not an opinion...Its the truth: Your to young.

I know at 18 you think you know a lot about training, diet and your body, but you most likely havent even scratched the surface.

Any question you have use the search...If it hasnt been covered then post a question but personally I feel everyone must do a certain amount of independant study before using something like aas.

No one can really answer your question properly asking what would happen just using it once. You would not know until you try and if its real bad theres no turning back after.

[MotoLifter]

if you want a real life example. ask the guy with the jersey shore highway sign avatar (i forget his screenname). he is on HRT at 20 or 21 from using stuff when he was your age. if thats not proof enough there wont be any proof good enough for you.


Moto

[redz]

if you want a real life example. ask the guy with the jersey shore highway sign avatar (i forget his screenname). he is on HRT at 20 or 21 from using stuff when he was your age. if thats not proof enough there wont be any proof good enough for you.


Moto

Exactly that could be your one cycle right there....life time injections.

[SlimJoe]

please listen to me i am a year or close to 2 older than you i made the same mistake luckily i came out of it i started taking steroids just before i turned 18 i felt like i was invinsible, great then reality hit me when i came of them my testosterone dropped to lower than my normal was before i started steroids i felt like shit had to force myself to do the most lasiest of things like walk the dog.. go to the shop.. took ages to get a hard on it aint worth it slowly my test picked it self back up but definetley will not be cyclying till im 25 or older again reconsider why u have the time hope this helps. joe

["DIRTY D" SANCHEZ]

^^^dido man, i did it at 19 and got lucky. Your luck may not be so great...?

As for your answer to "what will one cycle do"?

Answer- it will cause you to make natural gains at an unnatural pace. You will gain weight you could've gained naturally just at a faster time pace. You can probably retain some of that with proper pct, but definitely not all of it. Example: You'll gain 25lbs get off and in 3 months lose around 10lbs of that just from not shooting loose test into your body. With proper pct, and a test only cycle, odds are you will probably not have to inject test everyday for your life. (those are the pros man)

cons- everything you've read 10x's or 20x's over if not done right. Some of these guys do everything right and still get the cons after a couple years man. I will make you a promise right here...

Go to the diet section and post what you eat in macronutrients and see where they send you first. Then after you dial in a perfect diet, switch up the workouts (sets,reps, and splits) then train those for two years. Then when you are 21yrs old and actually may have stopped growing naturally, take a test 500mg a week cycle and rock the sh*t out of it man! The gains you are wanting are permanent, the system to get them you are trying to use is temporary... See where they won't go together? I know you just came for info and i am trying to give it right here. You do have a chance of taking it, pct and keeping some and not getting hurt and never needing another cycle again. Statistics show quite the opposite though my friend. So take advantage of being the age you are cuz, i'd jump right back if i could bro lol. I'm only 23 and after using the wrong way i can still make gains naturally. And i promise non of the gains from 19 yrs old are still playing ball man. Its a wasted risk that i and many others jump into before being ready.

Just research bro, and this is the site for info, but not yes men. We are nothing of the sort so just keep on trucking and if you decide to do it, i wouldn't post anything til you need help cuz, nobody will wanna talk about it unless you actually need the help.

Fair warning ya know?

Good luck bro,

"dirty d"

[mg1228]

has anyone looked at your diet---i would start there

[slimy]

You've been training 3 years and put on 80 pounds? So you're telling us you're averaging almost 27 pounds a year? Do you know most bodybuilders average around 5 pounds of lean muscle mass per year? Anything higher than that is considered remarkable in my books.

You're making great natural gains. Don't **** it up just because you think steroids are an easy way out. From what you've presented us with, your genetics are beyond what any steroid user could ask for. Do yourself and your growing body a favor and stay natural.

BAM!!!! Dude, what you are doing right now is WORKING. Stay the course, brother.

It's like those race cars that use nitrous oxide. They are all about timing. Hit the nit too soon, you burn out and lose the race. It's not time to hit the nitrous yet. 80lbs in three years? Hell, you could probably teach me some things.

Stick around here, read the threads with the word IMPORTANT in front of them, kick around the 'diet' section, and definately spend time in the PCT section. Then, when it's 'time to hit the nitrous', you can do so in a safe, intelligent manner.

Keep up with it, you are going to be a beast!

[Royal-Light]

Mate, I am 20 years old and i was considering steroids but once i did my research, there really isn't any point in taking steroids so young. Your just cheating yourself and your body. Bodybuilding is an Art. It takes time for you to build a body reguardless if you are on steroids or not. I dont know why you would want to put your body though all that, does the gains of being on steroids outweigh the repercussions? Your body mate, but don't blame anyone if it goes wrong apart from yourself.

Josh

[lovbyts]

thanks a lot the both of you... but bjpennnn to be honest with you i havent grown in almost 2 years so there could be a chance that my growth plates could be sealed already. as far as the other effects, yea i mean they sound pretty serious and im always constantly being reminded of them but could it really effect me that bad if i only do it once and i do it right? i mean at the age of 18 im not looking to become a consistent steroid user.

There is NO chance you are done growing. I may seem/feel that way but you arent unless you screw it up and fuse them. It's not just about taller...

I know you think you know about working out and diet. I started when I was 13 or 14. At 18 I though I had it all down. At 21 I realized how little I knew at 18. At 30 I knew a lot more. At 40 DAMN I wish I knew at 18/21 what I knew now.

[PT]

1st off i doubt your even 18 but even if you are steroids can cause way to many negative effects in your body and is not worth it. i know your going to do whatever you want and if you had steroids in front of you right now you would be using them but i gurentee you that you will regret that decision someday.

["DIRTY D" SANCHEZ]

^^^^well said, my brothers are in high school man, and they have friends that are 15 and 16 that have been on gear since 14-15 and they are pressing over 400olbs and all that, but in my head i can't help but wonder how they have messed their sh*t up after doing that man. Like, they aren't even men yet... So why would they think that they should do this? And the messed up part is most of them aren't even doing it for college ball or pro's, they just like looking good for the ladies, well its not gonna matter how f*ckin good you look when the b*tch pulls her pants down and your dick doesn't stand up lol.

Try to make the right choice man, we aren't bullsh*ttin you bro,

"dirty d"

[Hard.On]

18 too young by far
read this
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

[robmerke1]

i wanna thank all you guys for your help. to be honest with all of you about a week ago i really was on verge of juicing up thats how confident i was about doing them. i've received too much cons about steroids at this age and even in general for any age. not to brag or sound immature but as one can probably imagine at the age of 18 being 5'11, almost 200 pounds, and about 7 percent body fat u can understand my size especially for my age. like slimy said before, ye i mean its been a pretty insane ride especially for the past 6 months to the point that ive never felt so good at the gym in my life. but to be completely honest with you guys ive developed a problem with unevenness between my left and right sides of my body with every single mussel. been working on it for the past 2 months and yet no results which made my want for steroids even greater. yes i do understand steroids will not make my sides even but i do understand that the bigger you are the less noticeable it is. i do understand that its almost impossible for perfect symmetry but my unevenness is some far far away from that. not only has this problem frustrate the hell out of me, its an absolute work out kill (proving even more of a reason y i wanted to inject). its not one of those form issues since ive asked many trainers and other members at my gym to watch me. ive completely dropped the use of barbells and now use completely one arm exercises and yet nothing has change. my left side (bigger and non-handiness side) gets so much more out of every single work out. it feels constantly sore and almost like its continuously getting bigger and bigger even if im not working out. ive tried pounding more reps with my right side and yet no results.

[Hard.On]

good to hear,
Just one thing to add, With my self, The bigger I get the more noticable the dofference in size between my shoulders/chest & lats get

Its natural though, and doing more reps per side prob isnt the answer. Your form may need to be improved a bit.

[lovbyts]

More reps is defiantly not the answer and steroids would only offset this more.

Look into nerve problems, spinal alignment and such. I have a little nerve issue in my neck on the right side due to pinched nerve and rt shoulder rotator cuff problem. i can defiantly tell a difference in strength now. my left arm is stronger but I just make sure I keep doing the same reps/weight both arms and they have stayed pretty equal.

Find the source of the problem.

[Chimera44]

I hate it how people here wont educate and they just tell young guys they are too young. IMO its like teaching abstenence in schools, it just causes more pregnancies and std's cus they are gonna do it anyways but no one will talk to them about it. I deffinately see a lot of myself in you so I really want to help. First off I have to say that the medical community seems to agree that 20-21 is the end of puberty and the age where hormonal maturity is reached. A lot of people on here say that the age is really 25 but I havnt seen any scientific evidence to ever support that yet so I have to say 21ish. Lol, also when ever I ask people to refrence legit info when they say its 25, no one does.

Deffinately wait till then, but in the mean time I would highly reccomend the books by William Llewellyn, they are called "anabolics" there are a bunch of editions, personally I have "Anabolics 2007" and "Anabolics 9th edition". IMO they are the best refrence books for gear hands down. It has all the drug profiles, what they are used for, common dosages, the history, chemicle structure, what they are stacked with and anything you could ever want to know. I would deffinately read those and absorb that first before you come to forums like these. These forums have lots of knowlegable guys dont get me wrong, but you want to have a scientific foundation for this sort of thing and not anecdotal. Once you understand the science better, then you can really grasp what is true and what is bs on these forums.

Honestly, the next 3 years are going to go by so fast it will feel like you were 18 like last week lol. I know that most pros started on the sauce when they were like 16-18, but trust me bro when you really understand it better, thats a really sketchy age to start. Also watch the movie "Bigger Stronger Faster", thats an awsome movie that I think everyone should see.
If you are absolutely dead set on starting a cycle in like the next month or so then please only do a testosterone cycle of like 400 mg of test. cyp. per week for maybe 8-10 weeks. And get a very good post cycle running. There is only one PCT that I know of that has been actually scientifically tested. There were 19 subjects who were given high doses of highly supressive testosterone for 12 weeks which lowered their natural test to 25% of starting levels. After this PCT the study reported that every subject's natural test recovered to 100% of starting levels. It looks like this...

Day 1-16: 2500 iu/every other day HCG
Day 1-30: 50 mg/twice daily Clomid
Day 1-45: 20 mg/day Nolvadex

A lot of guys on here would say that this is excessive and that you dont need that much, but IMO the PCT is the most important part of the cycle. The faster your body recovers, the more gains you keep and the fewer sides you have after the cycle. This is my PCT for whenever I run a cycle, and I havnt had any complaints. I totaly understand where you're at right now, I was the exact same way when I was your age, but you have to trust us that at 18 it just isnt a good idea. I waited till I was 21 to cycle, and you grow a ton in that 3 year period (mentally). You learn a ton and you learn tons about yourself and what you really want to achieve.

As for your unevenness, my left arm was a full inch smaller than my right for the longest time and it pissed me off to no end. Some ideas would be to always start one armed sets with your bad side (curls/shoulder raises etc.), you could also do extra sets only for your bad side at the beginning of your workout so you have the most energy to put into that side before you move on to working them both. Really really focus on that mental part of the contraction for your right side. Do more daily activities with your right side. Honestly it will take longer than 2 months to see results for this sort of thing, It may take another year before you feel like you start to look more even which sucks I know.

Back to the main point though lol. I hated getting talked down to when I was your age because more often than not I knew more than the older more "experianced" guys, but I just didnt have the muscle to show it yet. I have the feeling you're somewhat the same way, you sound like a really smart kid so I trust that you will weigh both the good and the bad sides of the issue and then come to your own conclusion, after all, the best we can really do here is to educate, leaving people in the dark is how we get the horror stories like "steroids made this kids kidneys shut down, and now his natural test will never recover either", and its like "hell ya that happend to him because he was using 1000 mg of test prop and 300 mg of anadrol 50....... per day!!". Its the lack of education that perpetuates stupid shit like that and makes the public hate steroids.

There is a right and a wrong way to do anything, and thats even more true for steroids (but im sure you have heard that before). Get a scientific base knowlege of this stuff first. Know how test and estrogen and progesterone work. The same with HCG and the HTPA axis etc. Learn about how the drugs act and the possible sides for them. Please dont use gear yet but if youre going to then at least follow my advice. This really is a major step, but none of us can stop you from using them if you have firmly decided too. Best of luck to you bro!!

Chimera

[Chimera44]

Oh ya, I experemented with pro hormones (PH) when I was your age, and I didnt consider how strong they could be until they crashed my natural test and the doc's wouldnt give me anything to get it back up. So I spent the better part of 3 months with no appetite, I was always cold, I couldnt focus at all, I had no energy or drive ever, and I was really emotional (now I know how women feel lmao!!). But seriously though, it was the worst 3 months of my life and I wish I had never dont them. The worst part was that I didnt make any gains off them! From what Im reading it sounds like you are making gains by leaps and bounds (80lbs in 3 years). Thats INSAINE to gain that much, good job man!! Keep up the natural hard work and dont get discouraged bro, just take a deep breath and relax just a bit. Learn your body more, and I promise you will not regret the decision to start at a later age.

[ghettoboyd]

I hate it how people here wont educate and they just tell young guys they are too young. IMO its like teaching abstenence in schools, it just causes more pregnancies and std's cus they are gonna do it anyways but no one will talk to them about it. I deffinately see a lot of myself in you so I really want to help. First off I have to say that the medical community seems to agree that 20-21 is the end of puberty and the age where hormonal maturity is reached. A lot of people on here say that the age is really 25 but I havnt seen any scientific evidence to ever support that yet so I have to say 21ish. Lol, also when ever I ask people to refrence legit info when they say its 25, no one does.

Deffinately wait till then, but in the mean time I would highly reccomend the books by William Llewellyn, they are called "anabolics" there are a bunch of editions, personally I have "Anabolics 2007" and "Anabolics 9th edition". IMO they are the best refrence books for gear hands down. It has all the drug profiles, what they are used for, common dosages, the history, chemicle structure, what they are stacked with and anything you could ever want to know. I would deffinately read those and absorb that first before you come to forums like these. These forums have lots of knowlegable guys dont get me wrong, but you want to have a scientific foundation for this sort of thing and not anecdotal. Once you understand the science better, then you can really grasp what is true and what is bs on these forums.

Honestly, the next 3 years are going to go by so fast it will feel like you were 18 like last week lol. I know that most pros started on the sauce when they were like 16-18, but trust me bro when you really understand it better, thats a really sketchy age to start. Also watch the movie "Bigger Stronger Faster", thats an awsome movie that I think everyone should see.
If you are absolutely dead set on starting a cycle in like the next month or so then please only do a testosterone cycle of like 400 mg of test. cyp. per week for maybe 8-10 weeks. And get a very good post cycle running. There is only one PCT that I know of that has been actually scientifically tested. There were 19 subjects who were given high doses of highly supressive testosterone for 12 weeks which lowered their natural test to 25% of starting levels. After this PCT the study reported that every subject's natural test recovered to 100% of starting levels. It looks like this...

Day 1-16: 2500 iu/every other day HCG
Day 1-30: 50 mg/twice daily Clomid
Day 1-45: 20 mg/day Nolvadex

A lot of guys on here would say that this is excessive and that you dont need that much, but IMO the PCT is the most important part of the cycle. The faster your body recovers, the more gains you keep and the fewer sides you have after the cycle. This is my PCT for whenever I run a cycle, and I havnt had any complaints. I totaly understand where you're at right now, I was the exact same way when I was your age, but you have to trust us that at 18 it just isnt a good idea. I waited till I was 21 to cycle, and you grow a ton in that 3 year period (mentally). You learn a ton and you learn tons about yourself and what you really want to achieve.

As for your unevenness, my left arm was a full inch smaller than my right for the longest time and it pissed me off to no end. Some ideas would be to always start one armed sets with your bad side (curls/shoulder raises etc.), you could also do extra sets only for your bad side at the beginning of your workout so you have the most energy to put into that side before you move on to working them both. Really really focus on that mental part of the contraction for your right side. Do more daily activities with your right side. Honestly it will take longer than 2 months to see results for this sort of thing, It may take another year before you feel like you start to look more even which sucks I know.

Back to the main point though lol. I hated getting talked down to when I was your age because more often than not I knew more than the older more "experianced" guys, but I just didnt have the muscle to show it yet. I have the feeling you're somewhat the same way, you sound like a really smart kid so I trust that you will weigh both the good and the bad sides of the issue and then come to your own conclusion, after all, the best we can really do here is to educate, leaving people in the dark is how we get the horror stories like "steroids made this kids kidneys shut down, and now his natural test will never recover either", and its like "hell ya that happend to him because he was using 1000 mg of test prop and 300 mg of anadrol 50....... per day!!". Its the lack of education that perpetuates stupid shit like that and makes the public hate steroids.

There is a right and a wrong way to do anything, and thats even more true for steroids (but im sure you have heard that before). Get a scientific base knowlege of this stuff first. Know how test and estrogen and progesterone work. The same with HCG and the HTPA axis etc. Learn about how the drugs act and the possible sides for them. Please dont use gear yet but if youre going to then at least follow my advice. This really is a major step, but none of us can stop you from using them if you have firmly decided too. Best of luck to you bro!!

Chimera

i hate it when new peeps come on here and spoonfeed advise too peeps whome could have easily obtained it all by actually resurching for themselves...it would have been reading that could have not only informed the op of the benefits of aas but also the downfalls as well exspecialy for his age....hes too young period...

[Chimera44]

i hate it when new peeps come on here and spoonfeed advise too peeps whome could have easily obtained it all by actually resurching for themselves...it would have been reading that could have not only informed the op of the benefits of aas but also the downfalls as well exspecialy for his age....hes too young period...

we all start somewhere, at least hand it to the kid for wanting to learn first.

[elfin1mf]

I know you think you know a lot, but the true sign of intelligence is knowing just how much you do not yet understand. I am not going to tell you no no no, because if you want to do it you will. I am going to tell you to take a step back, read a lot more. Give yourself some time to ponder and then make an INFORMED DECISION.

All of a sudden I think I respect you very much MuscleScience..

[lovbyts]

we all start somewhere, at least hand it to the kid for wanting to learn first.

He got plenty of advise on why not to do it. I would bet your agenda is more to find another customer/sucker. Another newbie that needs watched and PM's reviewed I think. YES the admins have the right to read your PM anytime they want so if you are not here much longer we all know why.

[big an rich]

i wanna thank all you guys for your help. to be honest with all of you about a week ago i really was on verge of juicing up thats how confident i was about doing them. i've received too much cons about steroids at this age and even in general for any age. not to brag or sound immature but as one can probably imagine at the age of 18 being 5'11, almost 200 pounds, and about 7 percent body fat u can understand my size especially for my age. like slimy said before, ye i mean its been a pretty insane ride especially for the past 6 months to the point that ive never felt so good at the gym in my life. but to be completely honest with you guys ive developed a problem with unevenness between my left and right sides of my body with every single mussel. been working on it for the past 2 months and yet no results which made my want for steroids even greater. yes i do understand steroids will not make my sides even but i do understand that the bigger you are the less noticeable it is. i do understand that its almost impossible for perfect symmetry but my unevenness is some far far away from that. not only has this problem frustrate the hell out of me, its an absolute work out kill (proving even more of a reason y i wanted to inject). its not one of those form issues since ive asked many trainers and other members at my gym to watch me. ive completely dropped the use of barbells and now use completely one arm exercises and yet nothing has change. my left side (bigger and non-handiness side) gets so much more out of every single work out. it feels constantly sore and almost like its continuously getting bigger and bigger even if im not working out. ive tried pounding more reps with my right side and yet no results.

Dude. At 5'11", 200lbs and 7% you want to be competing as a natural bber. Don't even bother touching AAS. All this at 18yrs old... 80lbs since 15yrs old... Keep going like that and you'll be bigger than Cutler and Coleman naturally.... By age 21 lol

On a serious note. I think any decent person will simply give you the advice not to use AAS until AT LEAST 21 yrs and even then many will say 25 (if at all). It isn't a case of each person being looked at individually etc. If you are 18 no matter how long you've trained or how ready you think you are it really is not a good idea to use something as dangerous as AAS.

[c-Z]

dude im hear for facts not opinions... i understand what ure trying to say and to be honest with u and u prob already no this but many people will agree with u but im also not saying here that im going to take them. ive came across the thought of them and just look for the some info. no one has yet gave me an answer to the effects to just using it ONCE. ive tried to look for research on that but most places just have the general outlook on it not just one time use.

This is not just a general outlook on it. Everyone and their body reacts differently. You think all young users have same reactions to steroids? NO. Everyones body is completely different. Some mature earlier some later etc. Therfore there will only be a general outlook to teens and steroid use.

There is nothing wrong with learning at your age. I was the same age when I was like oh steroids I want.. But waited years before cycling after learning how it actually works.

[BIG_GUNS_21]

I know when I was 18 as well I really didn't feel like I was being talked down to when a 24 year old would call me "kid"...lol

Ahh to be invincible and in my early 20's again...You know what I would do first off if I could do it all over again??? I would have waited until I was 25 to start using gear...lol

[lovbyts]

This!

I know when I was 18 as well I really didn't feel like I was being talked down to when a 24 year old would call me "kid"...lol

Ahh to be invincible and in my early 20's again...You know what I would do first off if I could do it all over again??? I would have waited until I was 25 to start using gear...lol

I dont get it? What does my post have to do with your reply and flipn me the bird? I quoted a guy with 40 post who is basically telling him to go ahead and cycle. If I missed something please let me know unless you are one in the same and calling yourself out?

[Wevans2303]

Thought I would chime in.

I am 19 years old, and yes at times I have also thought very hard about wanting to start AAS, however, you just have to be RATIONAL about it.

Sides are 100% going to happen, instead of looking at it like 'I probably wont get any side effects, I read all the time about people being fine.' you need to accept that the side effects, both small and large, are very real, and the chances of you contracting them are very real indeed, hell non hormonal stuff has made me ill in the past, you just cannot categorically be sure that you will not experience problems, whilst on cycle, or further down the line.

The rationale is that if I take a look at myself down the line, I am probably going to look just how I want to look now naturally, if I bust my ass in the gym and at the dinner table for the next 6 years, I am going to gain more than a cycle of steroids could ever do, I probably wont need to do a cycle EVER.

If you have not gained in 2 years, steroids are going to do nothing for you. You need to re-asses your diet and your training regime.

If your bored, change it up, go extreme, like I am probably going to do a keto bulk once I am done cutting, seeing as keto has just destroyed fat off me in only 2 weeks using only a thermo fat burner and making sure I stick to time old rules on diet, no juice, and I have dropped 2%-3% body fat in 2 weeks.

I hope you make the correct choice to hold off drugs until your older, you will be surprised how much you will change in the coming years, and how you really didn't NEED steroids to make the gains. We would all love to be able to gain that 10-20lbs of muscle and/or loose that gut in a matter of months, but people need to stop seeking instant gratification and put the work in, and that is not 2-3 years, more like 6-7.

[c-Z]

^^^ Well said mate. Especially for a first post. Most idiots first posts are where can I buy this. LOL.... I like your style. Smart man.

[BIG_GUNS_21]

No bro, that was ment to be at the top of the post with the "This!" pointing at it...LOL I was agreeing with you. The rest was ment for the joker giving the shit advice.

Its been edited to avoid that kind of confusion...Sorry.

I dont get it? What does my post have to do with your reply and flipn me the bird? I quoted a guy with 40 post who is basically telling him to go ahead and cycle. If I missed something please let me know unless you are one in the same and calling yourself out?