My first cycle, need some tips

[Hardeeharhar]

Hi im new here, these forums looked like a nice place to find some advice. first off, i'm 6'0 and i weigh 230 I've been working out for about 4 and a half years, what ive been doing has been putting on muscle but not the beach body muscle im looking for. i want to get the more defined cut muscles without much weight gain. i wanted to get some insight on what you guys think of me starting a 30 day cycle of Winny with high reps, diet and Cardio?

[Big]

Hi im new here, these forums looked like a nice place to find some advice. first off, i'm 6'0 and i weigh 230 I've been working out for about 4 and a half years, what ive been doing has been putting on muscle but not the beach body muscle im looking for. i want to get the more defined cut muscles without much weight gain. i wanted to get some insight on what you guys think of me starting a 30 day cycle of Winny with high reps, diet and Cardio?

age?
body fat%?

no one here will recommend a winny only cycle, read some of the educational threads at the top.

[sirrah2508]

I think its a stupid idea.
Winny only will shut you down.
If you want to lose weight just change your diet to a cutting diet and jomp on the treadmill for an hour every morning.
What is your bf% and how old are you?

[Hardeeharhar]

im 20, my BF is 12%

[Big]

could you post a pic to show us the base you are working with?

[Hardeeharhar]

a picture of me? yah just give me a sec.

[Knockout_Power]

This I want to see... 6', 230 and 12%... buddy, you should be on stage with 2 months prep work. Dont bother cycling, you're doing well enough already

[Hardeeharhar]

i think the BF is definantly Inncorrect, i just did a home body fat test that i found online when he asked for it. ive never done an accual body fat test.

[Big]

we're pretty good at estimating, once we see your pics we can give you a good idea of what it is

[Hardeeharhar]

sorry to get your hopes up?

[Hardeeharhar]

[Hardeeharhar]

The Fat i do have is in my gut, as you see in the pictures

[Big]

you're around 24%bf, perhaps more. you should start with a good diet and get that going first.

[Hardeeharhar]

And after that, what do you recommend?

[juicyfruit71]

And after that, what do you recommend?

Well first of all...that body fat isn't just in your belly and certainly you should listen to Big and do some serious dieting and cardio before you start any cycle. Once you're down to AT LEAST 15%...then you might wanna look into an 8 week anavar only cycle.

Just my 2 cents

[Hardeeharhar]

Thanks juicy, do you know of any sources or websites that have any good information so i can set myself up with a good diet/cardio regiment. or do you have any advice yourself?

[Big]

read this and make sure you understand the risks of cycling at your age.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146
you have a good shape for your age, personally I think with proper diet and training alone you could be a beast. one step at a time though, lets get the diet and training tweaked and get that bf down and that will give you plenty of time to decide what you want to do next.

[Big]

Thanks juicy, do you know of any sources or websites that have any good information so i can set myself up with a good diet/cardio regiment. or do you have any advice yourself?

we have that right here, head to th diet section and read the educational threads at the top, then make a thread and ask any questions that remain. same goes for training.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

[juicyfruit71]

we have that right here, head to th diet section and read the educational threads at the top, then make a thread and ask any questions that remain. same goes for training.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

This ^ And seriously bro, take Big's advice about researching the effects that aas could have on you. You're only 20 years old, so right now you're test levels should be jacked naturally...

[Hardeeharhar]

alright thanks man