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    Gynocomastia as a teenager

    Hey, i have been browsing this site for a while but am still unable to find what im looking for o hopefully someone hear can help me out.

    When I was about 16-17 I started to get gynocamstia on my right side pretty bad which grew into a breast. And i did not touch steroids, even though all my family think i did. Anyway i had to get it removed with surgery.

    I am currently 22, 6.5 210 12%BF, and I want to do a cycle to gain a bit of muscle. My friend has test which i can buy off him when ever i feel i am ready to do it. Which will prob be after I do a lot more research into it over the next two months.

    If I did do it, because i naturally had gyno as a teenager, is there more of a chance that I will get it again if i run a cycle?

    And wants my best option to making sure there is no chance that it will come back again

    Thanks Kurt

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    You may be prone to gyno. But, that being said, you are still too young IMO. Please read all of this carefully before continuing:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

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    Quote Originally Posted by G4R View Post
    You may be prone to gyno. But, that being said, you are still too young IMO. Please read all of this carefully before continuing:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146
    ok thanks for the link

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    To be honest I really don't want to get all to much bigger., I just want to get stronger. All my lifts have stalled for ages and it seems pretty hard to get any where, when I have a 6.10 wing span and 7 inch wrists. My forearms are like sticks. And i really doubt there is much i can do about that its like trying to put muscle on your fingers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbm12345 View Post
    To be honest I really don't get all to much about getting alot bigger., I just want to get stronger. All my lifts have stalled for ages and it seems pretty hard to get any where, when I have a 6.10 wing span and 7 inch wrists. My forearms are like sticks. And i really doubt there is much i can do about that its like trying to put muscle on your fingers.
    What type of strength training are you doing?

    Forearms can be tricky, check this out:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=436361

    ^^^This thread is in our workout section:
    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

    Our site has TONS of information, not just steroid stuff. Check it all out before worrying about steroids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G4R View Post
    What type of strength training are you doing?

    Forearms can be tricky, check this out:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=436361

    ^^^This thread is in our workout section:
    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

    Our site has TONS of information, not just steroid stuff. Check it all out before worrying about steroids.
    Ok thanks, currently doing WSB with a RE day instead of DE day. And i think my diet is good, record everyday on fitday. But atm i am playing alot of basketball, which will stop in 2 months, that might be stopping my gains, so not going to start until after a few months after basketball is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbm12345 View Post
    Hey, i have been browsing this site for a while but am still unable to find what im looking for o hopefully someone hear can help me out.

    When I was about 16-17 I started to get gynocamstia
    Very typical, but usually resolves w/o intervention. If as you say you merely, "...started to get gyno..." you may have jumped the gun with surgery...surgeons gotta get paid too!

    If I did do it, because i naturally had gyno as a teenager, is there more of a chance that I will get it again if i run a cycle?
    No likely, if it was completely removed, the body doesn't store gyno memory, btut you'd be well advised to at least run a mild AI during and after cycle.

    And wants my best option to making sure there is no chance that it will come back again
    Depending on your level of comfort with the issue, either Adex or Letro.

    Thanks Kurt
    One of the above should be fine, no need for Serms, unless it recurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    One of the above should be fine, no need for Serms, unless it recurs.
    Thanks for answering, I didn't get surgery until i was 19-20, and it had definlty stopped growing and wasn't getting any smaller.

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    Last edited by kbm12345; 07-23-2010 at 12:35 AM.

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    Ok, ignore the above post.

    This is what I have figured out if i were to do start the cylce in roughly 3 months.

    400mg of test once a week for 10 weeks
    20mg of d/bol for 4 weeks

    .25mg of arimedax EOD while on cycle

    two week after last shot
    50mg of clomid for 4 weeks
    20mg of nolva for 4 weeks


    How does that look?
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    looks good to me you shouldnt put on any water (or not much) with the adex

    im also pretty young to young to have done a cycle but whats in the past i cant change. i ran very similar only difference is i didnt have the dbol. i ran aromasin,hcg,nolva as PCT. i also ran a bunch of test boosters while on PCT because it really makes u feel like shit those drugs. you have obviusly done some reasearch

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkiescumbag View Post
    looks good to me you shouldnt put on any water (or not much) with the adex

    im also pretty young to young to have done a cycle but whats in the past i cant change. i ran very similar only difference is i didnt have the dbol. i ran aromasin,hcg,nolva as PCT. i also ran a bunch of test boosters while on PCT because it really makes u feel like shit those drugs. you have obviusly done some reasearch
    Thanks, I am just worried that I might be naturally prone to gyno and i really dont want to have to go through surgey again as the doctor was a fn retard and he left a blood vessel open and i had to go back into surgery like 20min after it was done again to close it. Was in so much pain, I was awake just after the surgery full body shaking while they injected me with a shitload more morphine. Then back into fix the blood vessel.

    Then he took out to much fat tissue and left to much breast tissue to make up for it..

    Hopefully the aramix will help that tho.

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    At 22 I'd seriously consider every course of action other than steroids. The male body may stop growing height wise by 18-20, but most research indicates that it doesn't truly reach a set point until about 25. Screwing with your natural hormone balance before that could have worse long term side affects than if you wait a few years.

    I'm not trying to be a dick, but it sounds like you're looking for a quick fix. IMHO, steroids should only be taken once you have reached the peak of what proper lifting routine, diet, and supplements can give you. At 22, trust me you haven't reached that yet. It is well documented that men can continue to gain strength well into their 40s without steroids. The 32 year old version of me could kick the shit out of the 22 year old version of me. At 22 I had a max bench of around 225. Before a recent battle with injury I maxed 320x2, so I'd place my one rep max in the 335-350 range. I was doing 4 sets of 10 with 245 and had bumped up to 255. All this was done 100% natural. Over that ten year span my lifting was sporadic and I was learning a lot about diet, proper routine, etc. Most of the gain was in the last year and a half. I found I could gain 10lbs. every 6-8 weeks on my sets (going from say 225 4x10 to 235 4x10), and was adding reps to each set in my heavy pyramid every 2 weeks.

    Most kids get bad or misinformed advice when it comes to lifting. I wasted years of my lifting life with that. If I'd have known at 14 what I know now I'd be benching 500 or more. Keep in mind that doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. If all you've been doing is beating your head against the same routine for months without progress the problem is the routine. Something is off. It could be diet, overtraining, improper supplementation, or your actual routine. I'll give you a couple big hints. If you're training a body part more than once a week at your age you're overtraining. If you're doing the same routine every time you do a body part your routine needs to change. If you're doing more than 10 reps in anything but a warmup set your not using enough weight. If you're eating less than 1gm/lb. of body weight a day in protein and the same in complex carbs you are not eating enough. You should be in the 3,000-3,500 calories a day range at least. More if you continue to not lose weight and/or not gain strength. Cardio is not great for muscle building either. All that running at high intensity is actually causing your body to fuel off your muscles.

    Need more specifics, post back, or PM me, but I strongly urge against the use of steroids at this time. You have years to make amazing gains naturally.

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    Your 22 eat more sotp running around and train properly..

    You dont need drugs unless you have a medical condition...

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    if your not too concerned with getting bigger, how about starting a good diet regime and trying out powerlifting? I loved a program i could recommend i have been doing past months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsxr84 View Post
    if your not too concerned with getting bigger, how about starting a good diet regime and trying out powerlifting? I loved a program i could recommend i have been doing past months.
    Thanks to everyone for answering also, and giving your recommendation, much appreciated.

    Yeh that would be good thanks. I am currently doing a powerlifting routine though West side but a RE day instead of a DE day, similar to ws4sb3?

    After looking into it all I think i will most likely not do a cycle.

    I am going to cut down to 10%BF so i can start training properly as soon as basketball finishes. Going to make sure my diet/recovery is all on check, and see how much stronger I can get. If i dont get anywhere then the next season after basketball finishes (next year Aug) I will seriously consider doing steroids.

    On another note. I am just wondering how much BF levels and the areas that you store fat effect the production of estrogen?

    Because ever since i was a kid i stored a shitload of fat on my hip area, but and legs and really nothing anywhere else. And I am wondering if that could of played a role in me getting gynocasmastia as a teenager.

    I got blood tests done a while back and my test is high but SHBG is also very high. But the doctor didnt give me back resutls for estrogen when i asked for it which is a bit annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO Performance View Post
    At 22 I'd seriously consider every course of action other than steroids. The male body may stop growing height wise by 18-20, but most research indicates that it doesn't truly reach a set point until about 25. Screwing with your natural hormone balance before that could have worse long term side affects than if you wait a few years.

    I'm not trying to be a dick, but it sounds like you're looking for a quick fix. IMHO, steroids should only be taken once you have reached the peak of what proper lifting routine, diet, and supplements can give you. At 22, trust me you haven't reached that yet. It is well documented that men can continue to gain strength well into their 40s without steroids. The 32 year old version of me could kick the shit out of the 22 year old version of me. At 22 I had a max bench of around 225. Before a recent battle with injury I maxed 320x2, so I'd place my one rep max in the 335-350 range. I was doing 4 sets of 10 with 245 and had bumped up to 255. All this was done 100% natural. Over that ten year span my lifting was sporadic and I was learning a lot about diet, proper routine, etc. Most of the gain was in the last year and a half. I found I could gain 10lbs. every 6-8 weeks on my sets (going from say 225 4x10 to 235 4x10), and was adding reps to each set in my heavy pyramid every 2 weeks.

    Most kids get bad or misinformed advice when it comes to lifting. I wasted years of my lifting life with that. If I'd have known at 14 what I know now I'd be benching 500 or more. Keep in mind that doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. If all you've been doing is beating your head against the same routine for months without progress the problem is the routine. Something is off. It could be diet, overtraining, improper supplementation, or your actual routine. I'll give you a couple big hints. If you're training a body part more than once a week at your age you're overtraining. If you're doing the same routine every time you do a body part your routine needs to change. If you're doing more than 10 reps in anything but a warmup set your not using enough weight. If you're eating less than 1gm/lb. of body weight a day in protein and the same in complex carbs you are not eating enough. You should be in the 3,000-3,500 calories a day range at least. More if you continue to not lose weight and/or not gain strength. Cardio is not great for muscle building either. All that running at high intensity is actually causing your body to fuel off your muscles.

    Need more specifics, post back, or PM me, but I strongly urge against the use of steroids at this time. You have years to make amazing gains naturally.
    Thanks for writing all this out. If i have any questions Il def PM you.

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    5 3 1 program worth a bit of reading, i found it great.

    http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a..._pure_strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsxr84 View Post
    5 3 1 program worth a bit of reading, i found it great.

    http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a..._pure_strength
    Yeh ive done it for a bit. Ive got program ADD bad. Can't stick to one thing which is a big problem of mine.

    Im going to start 5/3/1 for football when bball season is over.

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