Pain+Rotator Cuff pain+cycle soon
Sup guys. As you know Im close to start my cycle in december. But I have a problem now, I get a little injured in my rotator cuff. I injured very badly like 7 months ago but it went away with rest (around a week). The pain I feel now its never compared to what I felt when I injured it long time ago but I just feel a little uncomfortable. Yesterday I did back and feel the molesty but I went through my workout. Im taking vioxx prescripted by my doctor. He said to take it for a week and see if the pain is gone. My question is if I can start the cycle even if I have the pain or molesty in the area. I know that deca helps alot in alleviating injuries. Ive been searching if any of the drugs Im going to use in my cycle (Eq, Susta, D-bol, Ari) should help me with that pain but I havent find any info on that. Please give me your thoughts brothers. I can wait to start my cycle, been waiting for along time!
Whoa! Intervention time . . .
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Originally posted by Glen
I am new here. And I wanted to suggest to this gentlemen maybe checking out a product I sell on my website...
Hmmmmmm . . . Let's see if I understand this.
Glen's contribution here is his third post on this forum. His first post was a brief introduction in which he claimed to have a scientific background (but does not elaborate) and provided his web site address, and his second post was another one-sentence provision of his web site address. All three posts were dated today.
If you go to his web site, you will also find no elaboration of his alleged "scientific background," just a series of informal newsletters and much hype about his "products." (I'm coming to the conclusion that anybody who ever uses the word "product" in a post should be shot - or at least shot up with some ground up pills in sterile water - because all they're really trying to do is sell one. You know . . . a "product.")
I respectfully submit that Glen's post is merely an advertisement, nothing more. It makes no contribution, it provides no information (compared to his web site, which provides lots of claims, but also no information).
Well, what I suggest, FWIW, is that readers check out my second post in the thead titled Who knows?????? (a thread initiated by Vinny) and read the cautionary note about people who make claims and who have products to sell. I call that a vested interest - even a conflict of interest - which does not provide reliable information about the questions we have.
I submit that, based on the evidence, Glen is a hyped up marketing dude who's out to make a buck, is thoroughly unqualified to pontificate on the clinical aspects of AS, and is not reliable as a source of information for treating injuries (the subject of this thread) with his, um, products.
Oh, and Glen, I'll be delighted to take any of this back - if you provide solid information on your so-called scientific background and are, in fact, clinically competent to make your claims and sell your, um, products. Seriously, dude, make a valid contribution here. If you're as good as you hype yourself up to be, surely you can do more than show up to push your - well, you know, products.
- TNT
Who doesn't have any, um,
products to sell and
advocates intelligent
AS use.
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Ah, what the hell - here's a P.S.
One of the most brilliant marketing ploys I ever heard came from the folks at Herbalife (which I do not recommend), who actually aired their sales seminars on infomercials several years ago.
The gist of the presentation was that if a potential customer asked how a product worked, the Herbalife rep would reply, "Well, I don't know about that, but all I can telly yu is that it worked for me and it will work for you. I love it, and you'll love it too."
And that's how they were told to answer every question. No scientific, clinical, or technical information, just a testimonial, "It worked for me, and it will work for you. I love it, and you'll love it too!"
So what have they told you? Nothing. Many claims, but without information or substantiation.
Well, bro's and sis's, we're talking about shooting stuff into our bodies. And when it comes to legal, so-called alternative products, we're talking about stuff that we pop in our mouths and swallow into our bodies.
So I don't know about you, but when it comes to something I'm dumping into my bod (regardless of its delivery method), I want to know more than, "I love it, and you'll love it too." When I see a web site say, "Clinical studies have shown that blah-blah-blah," I want to know the source of those clinical studies. When I read, "Experts attest that our product blah-blah-blah," I want to know the names, qualifications, and affiliations of those experts.
And when someone asks a serious question on a reliable AS forum (and I think that the AR forums are generally more reliable than any of the others out there), I want to read a response that says more than, "Try my product." That doesn't mean that I think Glen should be banned, since I'm against censorship. And Glen actually does serve a purpose - his post is a reminder that we have both an opportunity and an obligation to educate ourselves so we know what we're shooting, what we're popping in our mouths, and what we're drinking. That's what positive AS use is about.
End of sermon.