First cycle "soft"

[Mitch87]

Good Morning
I read some of this topic
(sorry but I don't speak good english )
I whant start my first cycle but I have only 23 years !
I would avoid any problems for my hair, and of course my testicles, but I read that the products to prevent damage to the testes have increased hair loss! is not it?
already following a diet and I work out 4 times a week
I'd like to make mini cycles of one month where I whant give 4 kg of lean mass.
I can take the steroid only orally, and I think to begin to take wistrol ( 40 mg day) and Dianabol ( 20 mg day)

[MBMETC]

please listen,and understand what you wish to do is not a good plan. winni can be harsh on your hair and when taking d-bol or other derivitives of testosterone you will force your body to stop produceing testosterone natuarally, so if you wish to do steroids you will always need to include injectible testosterone in your plan.
and by being only 23 your body hasnt fully matured which could cause you further problems , if 10lbs is all you want to add you should be able to do this with a good diet and work out plan. look at the diet and training sections on ths forums home page and learn how to eat properly its all you will need for the gains you desire.
good luck

[Mitch87]

Thanks MB!! But for 4 kg for mouth is too much for increase with only good work and diet , or not??
If use only two "soft" cycle at year , for you I Have some problem in future?
( I'd like to have 8 kg more than what you get with the usual gym )

[Johnyonemove]

please listen,and understand what you wish to do is not a good plan. winni can be harsh on your hair and when taking d-bol or other derivitives of testosterone you will force your body to stop produceing testosterone natuarally, so if you wish to do steroids you will always need to include injectible testosterone in your plan.
and by being only 23 your body hasnt fully matured which could cause you further problems , if 10lbs is all you want to add you should be able to do this with a good diet and work out plan. look at the diet and training sections on ths forums home page and learn how to eat properly its all you will need for the gains you desire.
good luck

+1 good advice ^^^^^^^

[Mitch87]

+1 good advice ^^^^^^^

mmmm ok Mb thinking it will also prevent the mini-cycles!

[MBMETC]

Thanks MB!! But for 4 kg for mouth is too much for increase with only good work and diet , or not??
If use only two "soft" cycle at year , for you I Have some problem in future?
( I'd like to have 8 kg more than what you get with the usual gym )

definately not, food is the only way to gain muscle and keep it, sure you could use d-bol and gain 10-15lbs of water and loose it all in a matter of weeks. you have to understand even with testosterone cycle if you dont eat enough food you will gain little or nothing and you certainly wont keep any of it, my point being is you have to eat, train and sleep.

[mick86]

dianabol and stanozolol (in any form) would be a potent recipe for hair loss in those prone (50% of men).

[Mitch87]

thanks mitch86 ! permanent loss or when stopped the cycle grows back?

Thanks MB, I think after your comment to avoid steroids , so there are other way well a good workout and a good diet to increase lean body mass without reducing the level of natural steroids? clenbuterol ?

[gladmax]

so what would be a good cycle to take if you are prone to hairloss,

[MBMETC]

FOODESTERONE....jk, since your gonna need to include test in basically all your cycles i think if your prone to mpb not much you can do

[MBMETC]

thanks mitch86 ! permanent loss or when stopped the cycle grows back?

Thanks MB, I think after your comment to avoid steroids, so there are other way well a good workout and a good diet to increase lean body mass without reducing the level of natural steroids? clenbuterol ?

no clenbuteral will help lose weight

[Mitch87]

Ok thanks !!

[Mitch87]

Sorry for the double response, I was thinking, avoiding
so the use of steroids , what can you say about the products
cheinvece stimulate the production of natural steroids and not the
decrease?
example: Vyotech Viraloid or Nutrex Anabol 5



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[mick86]

Hairloss can be either permanent or short term, if the loss occurs over around 4 seeks or less its often said there is a good chance most of it will come back. The longer it goes for over that the less chance.

Personally, I'm prone to hairloss but find that test in combination with finasteride (or dutasteride), Ketazol Shampoo, Spirolacatone, Minoxidil with topical Fiansteride (or dutasteride) prevents most if not all shedding, I also keep my cycles to around 6-7 weeks now. I do my injections every day or every other day to keep blood levels more stable/DHT peaks lower and I also sometimes use deca , eq, t-bol, slin, various peptides and occasionally tren (though for some people this causes severe hairloss). I favour short esters and like this I have not actually noticed any hairloss over my last 3 cycles, where as in the cycles b4 this I certainly lost a bit.

[Sicko]

heed the advice.I would not do the cycle you proposed..

[Mitch87]

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[Mitch87]

Thanks mick!

Dear sick! advice after I abandoned the idea of cycles!
now asking for other alternatives which is stimulated
and of course the production is not suppressed,
but I think they are not effective! (Vyotech Viraloid or Nutrex Anabol 5)

[gladmax]

2x thanks mick

[Sicko]

IMO all of the "steroid alternative" products are simply supplements/vitamins.I wouldnt spend all your money on them.Get some multi vitamin,fish oil,BCAA's, some Creatine and a good diet plan with lots of food.You will be amazed at how much you will gain at 23 your natural testosterone levels are still crankin.Give that a shot for couple of years then maybe you will be ready to cycle properly.(injectoins)