First time User - equipoise

**stieg007** · 02-01-2012, 11:33 PM

Im going to do a cycle of equipoise . Not looking for anything to crazy. This will be a one time thing. Looking to gain and then get off and work really hard to keep most of it. I have a few questions:

Is equipoise by itself what you would suggest for what i described above?

Do i need something for after? like clomid?

What dosage should i inject and how often?

**Razor** · 02-01-2012, 11:35 PM

I just killed myself...i Cant do this anymore

You killed me...are you happy?

**stieg007** · 02-01-2012, 11:37 PM

im not getting it?

**grumpee** · 02-01-2012, 11:46 PM

That time of year again when all the kids who sit on there ass all year want to get big or cut for spring break.

**stieg007** · 02-01-2012, 11:49 PM

after looking at other threads i kind of figured this would be the response i got. I have been trying to read about it on the internet and from my friend. Thought i would reach out here and see if anyone could offer some answers. Guess not?

**stpete** · 02-01-2012, 11:53 PM

Back to the drawing board for you. Spend lots of time reading steroid profiles, PCT Forum and the stickies. EQ shouldn't be ran alone and it's not that good anyway.

**stieg007** · 02-01-2012, 11:59 PM

I dont think im looking for something that is that good. Something simple and mild i guess. I plan on reading for the next couple of months. I have the EQ already. Can i ask why it shouldnt be ran alone?

**The Titan99** · 02-02-2012, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by razr.

i just killed myself...i cant do this anymore

you killed me...are you happy?

lmfao!!!!!!

**10nispro** · 02-02-2012, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by stieg007

I dont think im looking for something that is that good. Something simple and mild i guess. I plan on reading for the next couple of months. I have the EQ already. Can i ask why it shouldnt be ran alone?

EQ will shut your natural test levels off and you will have all kind of problems. Just curious. What dosage per week and how long were you going to run it?

**stieg007** · 02-02-2012, 12:17 AM

My friend wrote it all down for me. Im not at home right now.. this is why im asking questions bc my friend is not the smartest kid i have ever met. But he does them and looks good and doesnt have any issues. I will look when i get home and post them.

**stieg007** · 02-02-2012, 12:19 AM

I dont even know if i want to do this. I work my ass off in the gym and cant gain any mass. I am fit and pretty solid but i just want to gain like 10-15 pounds of muscle.

**The Titan99** · 02-02-2012, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by stieg007

I dont even know if i want to do this. I work my ass off in the gym and cant gain any mass. I am fit and pretty solid but i just want to gain like 10-15 pounds of muscle.

Your just not eating enough/the right thing/the right time. You have a ton of natural test in your system right now. Go to the diet section. It's there you'll get what you want...

**Razor** · 02-02-2012, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

lmfao!!!!!!

lol

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.TyotSpwu7wg
GAWD DAMMIT CANT YOU PEOPLE READ!!! WTF!!!

**stieg007** · 02-02-2012, 12:39 AM

I probably wont even end up doing them. Nobody has to answer... because i dont want to think im tricking you into giving me advice. But there Has to be a cycle for someone that works out 3 times a week and has a decent diet and just wants a boost and then be done with it. Has to be be. It might not be your way. But there has to be a safe way of doing it. Maybe the steroids give you a boost and you eat more but not perfect and workout an extra day or two and come out bigger with no horrible side effects. I dont think im gonna do it though. Im too scared anyway. Looks like im 5'9 180 for the rest of my life. lol. Thank you for the advice.

**Razor** · 02-02-2012, 12:52 AM

You didnt tell us anything about yourself. what do you expect.

Stay away from steriods

**stieg007** · 02-02-2012, 12:59 AM

what do you want to knpow?

**Razor** · 02-02-2012, 01:01 AM

dude read this thread plz then come talk to me like an adult and I will help you

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.TyotSpwu7wg

**stieg007** · 02-02-2012, 01:08 AM

I did read it and i have been talking to you like an adult.

**stieg007** · 02-02-2012, 01:11 AM

my diet needs to improve before i get on a cycle that i dont know if im even going to do. As i continue to work out and learn how to eat right i just want to know what steroid to research. My idiot friend told me EQ.

**Razor** · 02-02-2012, 01:12 AM

How old are you?

**stieg007** · 02-02-2012, 01:14 AM

I am 27

**Razor** · 02-02-2012, 01:26 AM

Im out tonight, someone else take over

**Far from massive** · 02-02-2012, 01:31 AM

I see you were 26 when you joined last week, so I just wanted to say Happy Birthday!!

**stieg007** · 02-02-2012, 01:35 AM

On saturday. Thanks.

**Sly_theCat** · 02-02-2012, 02:19 AM

Run at a high dosage, best way too see results on EQ. Also stack with a test. You'll soon learn the ropes. the Net is a powerful tool too obtain any info.

**ramacher** · 02-02-2012, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Sly_theCat

Run at a high dosage, best way too see results on EQ. Also stack with a test. You'll soon learn the ropes. the Net is a powerful tool too obtain any info.

Terrible advice, you won't see any results from running EQ alone. And if you run it with test, most of the gains will come from the test.

**Honkey_Kong** · 02-02-2012, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by Sly_theCat

Run at a high dosage, best way too see results on EQ. Also stack with a test. You'll soon learn the ropes. the Net is a powerful tool too obtain any info.

Wow.....

**The Titan99** · 02-02-2012, 04:21 AM

EQ is good for oiling your chainsaw or your bike chain, that's about it. If your looking for something crappy that won't do anything but fvck up your HPTA congratulations, you've found it!!

**stieg007** · 02-02-2012, 12:03 PM

What is something with mil results and mild side effects?

**hankdiesel** · 02-02-2012, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by stieg007

after looking at other threads i kind of figured this would be the response i got. I have been trying to read about it on the internet and from my friend. Thought i would reach out here and see if anyone could offer some answers. Guess not?

I got an answer for you. Throw that eq in the garbage and leave steroids alone.

**hankdiesel** · 02-02-2012, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by stieg007

my diet needs to improve before i get on a cycle that i dont know if im even going to do. As i continue to work out and learn how to eat right i just want to know what steroid to research. My idiot friend told me EQ.

If you don't want to get big why are you going to research any steroids at all? They don't "cut you up."

**gixxerboy1** · 02-02-2012, 12:19 PM

start reading the educational threads up top. They will tell you alot how steroids work. What else you need to take with them and what are good beginner cycles. After that ask what other specific questions you have

**Ashop** · 02-02-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by stieg007

Im going to do a cycle of equipoise . Not looking for anything to crazy. This will be a one time thing. Looking to gain and then get off and work really hard to keep most of it. I have a few questions:

Is equipoise by itself what you would suggest for what i described above?

Do i need something for after? like clomid?

What dosage should i inject and how often?

I dont think you would be happy with ab EQ only cycle. Stack it with some additional testosterone and you will have a nice cycle,,they have a synergisiic eggect when ran in combination. You will look,,feel and gain much better and quicker.

**The Titan99** · 02-02-2012, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by stieg007

What is something with mil results and mild side effects?

Chickenadrol!!!

**Dr. R.** · 02-02-2012, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

Chickenadrol!!!

Haha nice. Lol

**hankdiesel** · 02-02-2012, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by stieg007

What is something with mil results and mild side effects?

If your source doesn't have chickenadrol try creatine.

**Coolhand5599** · 02-02-2012, 10:29 PM

When I was 18 I took eq with test cyp and after a few weeks I was pissing blood. Still not sure why

**Emperor9** · 02-02-2012, 11:15 PM

he seems to be looking for magic in a bottle. all he has to do is eat more/right ..like another suggested.

**andy-pandy** · 02-03-2012, 04:32 AM

since you have already got it, do at least 400mg per week, preferably 600mg and split into 2 injections a week
you can gain off EQ alone, espically if its your first time and 10-15lb can be achievable but you need run it atleast 12 week but idealy 16+ since it takes a long time to kick in

you do need to be training right and eating a ****load, if you arnt gaining weight slowly before steroids then you arnt gunna keep anything you gain.

everybody parrots you NEED test in a cycle, but EQ,dbol and even winstrol are anabolic steroids and you will gain regardless of test aslong as you do high enough dose and train/eat right, followed by a good PCT afterwards

the only reason i would advise test in every cycle is because most people lose there libido since theres no test in there system and i say most not all because some are still fine without it, just using 125mg a week along with other steroids will be enough for that.

*edit* forgot to write everybody reacts differant, so some gain alot of cerrtains steroids and others not much from them so the only way you will know is trying each yourself and form your own opinion

**BBrian** · 02-03-2012, 10:06 AM

Come on guys, yes we find ourselves writing up the same responses several times a day but you have to keep in mind that when someone comes here fresh they haven't read everything you have read and they certainly don't have Razr's post stabbing them in the eyes when they register. This guy has been very patient and respectful despite a lot of you not treating him the same way, and for that he deserves a little respect.

Stieg, you will see a lot of people here dissing equipoise . When compared to most other anabolics it comes in next to last in terms of results (considering its price when compared to test), but the fact is that it is an anabolic steroid and it does render some results, just not as much as testosterone , well, or even close to test. It's only about half as androgenic as testosterone, but it can be very effective in adding strength and stimulating appetite when taken in adequate doses, and I'm not talking about extreme doses either. It also has a very slow rate of aromatization, which means it will be responsible for less side effects than test. Equipoise does attribute to slow and continual muscle buildup, but should probably be taken at 600mg per week for a full 12 weeks. All in all equipoise is just a very mild anabolic , but an anabolic all the same. I personally believe that if equipoise was just incredibly cheap, there would be no reason to not add it into any 12 week bulking stack.

Anyway, like these guys pointed out, eq does suppress natural testosterone production and it is essential that is it used in correlation with testosterone. The main thing you need to understand is that EQ is not effective as a stand-alone compound, even if you're only looking to add on only a little mass. In your case I'd bet that you'd be happy with only taking 250-400mg of test a week with 600mg of eq, and with a solid diet, you could probably be very effective in maintaining a large percentage of your gains. At 5'9" and 180 lbs, assuming you don't have a high body fat%, you have a very good base to start with already.