if a guy training hard, eating well, and having good rest, and tried every steroid even tren, and not growing, what can he do?
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if a guy training hard, eating well, and having good rest, and tried every steroid even tren, and not growing, what can he do?
Eat more
You mean steroids aren't magic?
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Originally Posted by patrick4588
dude...before u say something ask about the diet....and it is not me it is a friend he eats more than i do...he cant grow!!! there is something wrong, the gear is good, but his body isnt growing....!
What is he eating, and what's his training like? And what is his cycle?
I eat more at maintenance than all my friends who have 20lbs on me. Not everyone is the same. If u can grow on 2800 calories, doesn't mean he can. Tell him to see a doctor and make sure everything is fine. If so, he just needs more calories. Maybe he has a tape worm
his diet:Quote:
Originally Posted by stpete
Meal 1: whey protein 30g + 1 cup oats
Meal 2: 120g chicken breats + 1 cup rice + brocoli
Meal 3: same
Post workout: whey protein 30g
Meal 5: 120g steak + sweet potatoes + spinach
Meal 6: same
Meal 7: cottage cheese + cucumber
casein 30g before sleeping....
and the shit is not bunk... he tested it in a lab it is good, other took the same shit and they got freat results
the cycle is 8 weeks
week 1-8
tren a 75mg ed
test p 50mg ed
he is in the start in week 4 and no difference not even strength gains in the workout
No wonder he isn't growing. It's his diet. Tell him to replace those shakes with animal protein. He needs more food in his diet, lots of carbs and animal meat. If he is a full ecto-morph like it sounds like then he will need to eat well above TDEE to gain. I eat 1,000 cals above TDEE to gain and I am ecto and meso morph. Tell him to get some eggs in the morning (3 full 4 whites), drink full fat milk and plenty of it. Tell him he can even eat simple carbs especially in the morning and after a workout. Eating only complex carbs is more for guys gain fat easy (IMO). Hope this helps him. I know how it feels not to gain weight, i have been there. Just wish someone told me about nutrition 10 yrs ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maged
One of my favorite calorie stacking meals is whole wheat pasta, Beef, Sauce (spaghetti), with a couple cups of milk. Ends up being like 700-800 calories if you eat a good size plate.
That's not eating bro. Tell him to go to the nutrition section. I can eat all that before noon. And I'm only 200 lbs.
In all honesty i've eaten worse than that and still progressed.
What's your friends stats? Sorry, should have asked that before.
And his training?
Cycle only 8 weeks? Most ppl get results 5-6 weeks out in a cycle. Why stop when the results start? IMO 12 weeks should be used.
I'm on the app and my eyes hurt. Just noticed the "same" meals.
Really need stats and preferably calories at least on those foods. No way to tell without portions but just by guesstimating.... Barely around 3000-3200.
But again...stats please
ya i know and i am sure that with this diet if he is a normal guy he would grow and alot too! thats why i wont listen to them, his status:Quote:
Originally Posted by stpete
172 cm
4 years training
75 kgs
11% bf
Curious if he has done any blood work?
do blood work for what? trenbolone?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by austinite
I don't know which (if any) assays are sensitive to tren but I'm pretty sure that's not what Austinite meant. Blood work could provide some indication why he's not growing. For example, if his estradiol is too high, it'll compete with testosterone, bind to receptor sites and render his gear pretty much useless. Blood work will give an indication of hormonal levels or other problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maged
What's the daily caloric intake and macros on that diet? It looks weak at a glance.
to check if there is something else wrong with himQuote:
Originally Posted by Maged
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Originally Posted by Rwy
ok what bloodwork he must do? hormones or what?
CBC, CMP, full hormonal assay (testosterone, thyroid, cortisol, FSH, LH, estradiol) for starters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maged
ok but what is CBC & CMP?Quote:
Originally Posted by MuscleInk
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MuscleInk
He is doing short esters so 8 weeks is pretty standard...Quote:
Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP
Complete blood count (CBC)Quote:
Originally Posted by Maged
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP)
A doctor should know what labs to order.
Maybe I missed it. This app is driving me nuts. So you said Esthers. Plural. What other compound is he running other than tren?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunk1
I am no diet guru but my first thought is lack of carbs . I think his stats and full macro breakdown would be good to see.
Also..not that the amount of AAS is bad but it's also far from a huge gainer. It's a starter course for tren at best.
prop/trenQuote:
Originally Posted by austinite
Gotcha. Thanks
All those injections have you loopy bro...maybe you should lay down lolQuote:
Originally Posted by austinite
Took the words right out of my mouth... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MuscleInk
is there shots i can take to stop hormone imbalance?
There is a POST NEW THREAD button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitseeker
Ok. Well then I learned something new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunk1