Body - not hulk

[Aliusman]

Hey guys,

Happy new year, I am new to this forum so wanna give yous a little background, I am not new to body building but new steroids world. After pushing myself in gym now I have decided to use steroids to get my dream body. This question might have been asked many times before but "how can I get a model body". When I say model body I mean bodies like Hollywood stars. I really dont wanna be Arnold or hulk, but I would love to have body like Jacob ( twilight ). Basically I want a lean muscly body, big not bigger or huge.

1. The above shows what I want, now the real question what steroid cycle should I use to get that?
On this site I checked the novice cycle 1 and it seems pretty big to me,

Week Testosterone-Enanthate Dianabol Nolvadex
1 500mg 25mg Every Day
2 500mg 25mg Every Day
3 500mg 25mg Every Day
4 500mg 25mg Every Day
5 500mg 25mg Every Day
6 500mg 25mg Every Day
7 500mg
8 500mg
9 500mg
10 500mg
11 500mg
12 500mg
13
14
15 40mg Every Day
16 40mg Every Day
17 20mg Every Day

The above cycle is almost 700mg per week at the start, I agree with Testosterone-Enanthate as it is more for cut and strength and for less mass. Dianabol worries me here as cuz of dianabol I can get huge which I don't wanna.

I am so confused about even for first cycle, please help
Regards

[MuscleInk]

Hey guys,

Happy new year, I am new to this forum so wanna give yous a little background, I am not new to body building but new steroids world. After pushing myself in gym now I have decided to use steroids to get my dream body. This question might have been asked many times before but "how can I get a model body". When I say model body I mean bodies like Hollywood stars. I really dont wanna be Arnold or hulk, but I would love to have body like Jacob ( twilight ). Basically I want a lean muscly body, big not bigger or huge.

1. The above shows what I want, now the real question what steroid cycle should I use to get that?
On this site I checked the novice cycle 1 and it seems pretty big to me,

Week Testosterone-Enanthate Dianabol Nolvadex
1 500mg 25mg Every Day
2 500mg 25mg Every Day
3 500mg 25mg Every Day
4 500mg 25mg Every Day
5 500mg 25mg Every Day
6 500mg 25mg Every Day
7 500mg
8 500mg
9 500mg
10 500mg
11 500mg
12 500mg
13
14
15 40mg Every Day
16 40mg Every Day
17 20mg Every Day

The above cycle is almost 700mg per week at the start, I agree with Testosterone-Enanthate as it is more for cut and strength and for less mass. Dianabol worries me here as cuz of dianabol I can get huge which I don't wanna.

I am so confused about even for first cycle, please help
Regards

Why not just run test-E for 12 weeks? Keep it simple. What are you considering for an AI? What about your PCT? HCG?

[MickeyKnox]

Welcome to the Forums!

When you're done answering MuscleInk's questions, please take a moment and go over this thread. You may find it useful in putting together a cycle to meet your needs.

However, above all else, your diet will determine you physique not steroids.


Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[t-dogg]

Test e only for 12wks. 400-500mgs total a week. You need a ai, pct and hcg.

[Soar]

You lost me at twilight....

[Aliusman]

Thanks guys for quick reply, my PCT IS Nolvadex, I am not sure what is HGC AND AI,

[MickeyKnox]

Why HCG is So Important

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

Why It's Important To Run An AI

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UMPClazX_ft

SERM, AI Definition

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-AI-Definition

[Aliusman]

I want JIM'S body. This the perfect body for me
jim230027
Sorry guys I am just asking dumb questions but after month of research on steroids I am getting frustrated

[MuscleInk]

Thanks guys for quick reply, my PCT IS Nolvadex, I am not sure what is HGC AND AI,

Start with Mickey's links. That's the best place to start. AI is aromatase inhibitor, it'll minimize aromatization of testosterone to estrogen and keep bloating and estrogen related side effects at a minimum. It's important. HCG is human chorionic gonadotropin. It'll help restart your own testosterone and recover from any testicular atrophy. PCT is typically tamoxifen and clomiphene.

Spend some more time reading before you jump in.

[stpete]

^^^ That sums it up.

[Aliusman]

Thank you guys, before it seems very easy, inject and get muscles but after reading about steroids , it tells me the process is extremely complicated, with AI + HCG and Testosterone -Enanthate + dianabol . It's gonna be aprox 1000mg a week if I skip dianabol still it's high dose.
1. Is my body capable of handling this large amount?

Simply I will defiantly read more about it, above links are great and the explanation explains every thing but
2. is there anything you guys can come up for my full first cycle

also I was thinking to just to do ONLY ONE cycle and then not use steroids after but maintain the body I got from steroid by working out hard,
3. Does that make sense to you guys?

[MuscleInk]

Thank you guys, before it seems very easy, inject and get muscles but after reading about steroids , it tells me the process is extremely complicated, with AI + HCG and Testosterone -Enanthate + dianabol . It's gonna be aprox 1000mg a week if I skip dianabol still it's high dose.
1. Is my body capable of handling this large amount?

Simply I will defiantly read more about it, above links are great and the explanation explains every thing but
2. is there anything you guys can come up for my full first cycle

also I was thinking to just to do ONLY ONE cycle and then not use steroids after but maintain the body I got from steroid by working out hard,
3. Does that make sense to you guys?

Stick to 500mg test-E alone, weekly for 12 weeks. See how your body responds to a simple cycle of enthanate before you increases doses. Higher doses come with increased risks. No need to over do it.

One cycle is like one potato chip - it's unlikely. Once you see results you'll want more!

Don't forget your nutrition. As you said, its more than just taking a drug and watching the results. Without the right, consistent nutrition and training, results will be short lived. This is a lifestyle, not a hobby.

[Aliusman]

Stick to 500mg test-E alone, weekly for 12 weeks. See how your body responds to a simple cycle of enthanate before you increases doses. Higher doses come with increased risks. No need to over do it.

You mean I should not use AI and HCG?

[MuscleInk]

You mean I should not use AI and HCG?

No, you SHOULD use an AI and HCG. If someone else doesn't lay out a cycle for you, I can help out in a bit.

You really need to spend time reading. There is a lot you should become aware of so you stay safe.

[MuscleInk]

Please read this:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...AI-consistency

[MuscleInk]

.....and this:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UOJcSkK9Kc0

[Aliusman]

No, you SHOULD use an AI and HCG. If someone else doesn't lay out a cycle for you, I can help out in a bit.

You really need to spend time reading. There is a lot you should become aware of so you stay safe.

I know i need more knowledge , it has been few weeks I am reading about it and basically I am getting more confused as much as I read, it clears up few things but leaves confusion in other things.

I spent months in gym to build up my base just hopping to use steroids one day and get a perfect body but frankly it is complicated as hell no joke. This is serious business and I don't wanna do something which I have too regret after that's why I am talking to you guys to get a perfect cycle and technique. The basic thing I am scared of testicle shrinking issue, also I do not wanna get huge as its a common impression with steroids that the steroids user gets huge. Also by misusing anything I don't wanna get infected or destroy my sex life. There are heaps of things I am thinking about it at the moment but yes I want a body and I wanna use steroids in a proper way.

If you can help me out with first complete cycle would be great, as you know what I want, not huge body but a nice muscles and defiantly want big arms

Thank you so much for your time and help bro , highly appreciated

[taaa]

hcg prevents testical shrinkage and getting "big" or "lean" is up to your diet not the testosterone
the testosterone only helps you build the muscle faster

[OnTheSauce]

You do not need steroids to look like that 170lb kid in twilight. How old are you?

[fit2bOld]

He's 28. I think you have a big mispercetion of what steroids will actually do. You stated you have spent months in the gym building a base. That could actually take a few years. Byno means will a cycle pump you up like a pro bodybuilder.
You have yet to give any stats and how much actual training you have under your belt.

[kelkel]

Agree with Fit and Patrick.

Op, you are not ready for this and need to maximize your nutrition and training first. AAS right now is nothing more than a risk that you do not need and are not ready for. You seriously don't need aas to look like your goal.

[Aliusman]

Yes I am 28, I stared gym when I was 16, I did it for 2 years and then left cuz got busy in my studies etc, then I did gym for 2 more years from 21 to 23, left again, during all these time I did not get muscles. At the age if 26 I stated kickboxing, I did do gym with my kickboxing but once a week or so, for stronger arms a bit of shoulders or legs etc, then finally in feb 2012 I decided to get my best body cuz when I was going kickboxing, other guys were muscly and more strong. After a month in march 2012 I stopped the kickboxing because I got too much into "to build my body and look hot" kinda thing. On that day I stared gym hard, had a personal trainer , he guided me for exercises and made a nitration plan, I got a little big and now at least I m in a good shape. My back i straight, chest is out, no stomach, got nice bicep but not muscly it's just there. At this time after everything I have just acceptable body.

I am almost 5'11'' and my weight is 80 to 83 KGS, it's revolves around that, if I do more cardio and less weight I go 79 to 80, else I stay 82, 83.

Body fat 18% to 20% again varies.

So now I want steroids, I might have asked this question in amateur manners but I am very serious about getting my best body.

Please guys I need help, I have seen people not even went to gym and on steroids they got nice bodies in couple of months even, I had a chance to use steroids back when I was 22 but I didn't cuz I was focusing on natural muscle gain. Now I think I did whatever I could to push my body to the max. I can do whatever I am not gonna get muscles if I didn't get it after that long,

[marcus300]

You don't need steriods and tthat's the honest answer. Keep hitting the gym, play about with your diet and make sure you have a good cardio protocol in place. Build a base first before steriods and you have a lot more time to put in the gym before aas. You also don't need them for what you want to achieve.... don't run before you can walk.

Best of Luck

[Bio-Active]

Honestly diet is we're its at bro. Have you hit the nutrition forum? I would be willing to bet you can obtain all of your goals with out the use of ass with just a good nutrition and training regime.

[Aliusman]

Guys I have done whatever I could, isn't it 3 years enough ? This is what I am now , I can't grow anymore, I spent lots of money on personal trainer and nitration plan and supplements, I m happy with that but that is it,

[Bio-Active]

Guys I have done whatever I could, isn't it 3 years enough ? This is what I am now , I can't grow anymore, I spent lots of money on personal trainer and nitration plan and supplements, I m happy with that but that is it,

Post up what you ate yesterday for me to see

[gixxerboy1]

Guys I have done whatever I could, isn't it 3 years enough ? This is what I am now , I can't grow anymore, I spent lots of money on personal trainer and nitration plan and supplements, I m happy with that but that is it,

no offense but with your stats and 3 years of training an diet something is wrong. Either your training and diet or both. Steroids are not your answer. And if you dont fix figure out what your problem is now and fix it first you will just go back to looking like what you do now after your cycle.
And you are not even close to the point of needing them nor to get to look you want need them

[auswest]

Diet and lifestyle.. Work on that, and results will follow..

And btw lol@ your comment you do not want to look like Arnold, dont worry,you never will...but train like you do and you may have a chance at achieving the physique you are after..

Steroids are not going to do that, it takes much more than this, you have to learn how to train, how to eat, how to rest and how to live, you would be blown away by the dedication involved!
And once you think you have everything in check you still won't, you're forever learning and betteri g yourself each week, that's why I'm so addicted to this lifestyle

[Bio-Active]

Steroids are a small piece of the equation to get the appearance that you are looking for! Your nutrition and training need to be extreme. Are you willing to micromanage everything that you eat? This is the only way. Every piece of food that I digest is weighed on a digital scale every day. You need to eat 6 or 7 quality whole food meals per day.

[BBJT200]

With proper nutrition and training styles, you do NOT need steroids to look like the guy from twilight.

Steroids will NOT turn you from average or acceptable to a massive hulk. It takes a long time to get to that point, regardless of gear use.

If you use steroids now, you might see some results that you haven't seen before. Once you get off of them, your body will quickly go back to where you are now.

Get a solid understanding of HOW YOUR BODY WORKS, then develop your training/nutrition program, THEN once you are comfortable with things maybe introduce some AAS.

[scoot]

You lost me at twilight....

thank you! who is jacob...lol

[Aliusman]

Post up what you ate yesterday for me to see

Morning Breakfast:
3 fried eggs, 3 toasts with peanut butter, a glass of milk

10:00 - 4 bananas and yogurt (300ml)

11:00 - protein shake in slim milk

12:00-12:30 - lunch
More then Half chicken, salad,

2:00 - freshly squeezed juice, apple, mango, strawberries, pineapple

3:30 - a yogurt to fill me up

5:00 - A sandwich with beef petty

7:30 - protein shake after gym

8:30- dinner, two beef steaks with veggies

Last night I did not but some nights I also have CASEIN,

Cheers

[gixxerboy1]

Not nearly enough protein and lots of carbs and sugar. Your diet is why your not getting the results u want

[Aliusman]

Not nearly enough protein and lots of carbs and sugar. Your diet is why your not getting the results u want

How its not enough protein? According to my weight I should use 75 MG every day, 2 protein shakes give me 75mg and chicken can cover extra , that's what I ate yesterday, I don't do it every day but close to that.

[gixxerboy1]

How its not enough protein? According to my weight I should use 75 MG every day, 2 protein shakes give me 75mg and chicken can cover extra , that's what I ate yesterday, I don't do it every day but close to that.

Where did u get u need 75 grams of protien from?

[Aliusman]

Where did u get u need 75 grams of protien from?

My protein shakes, dymatize etc

[gixxerboy1]

My protein shakes, dymatize etc

No where did u come up that u obly need to eat 75 grams of protien a day for ur size/ goals

[Aliusman]

No where did u come up that u obly need to eat 75 grams of protien a day for ur size/ goals

My trainer setup my protein ratio for me he was an expert,

[gixxerboy1]

My trainer setup my protein ratio for me he was an expert,

no he isnt, get your money back, The proof is in your results. You dont need steroids you need a new diet, My wife eats more protein then you do.
Forgot the steroids and goto the nutrition section here.

[auswest]

My trainer setup my protein ratio for me he was an expert,

Obviously not, pretty awful diet..