No pip bunk gear ?

[Dougiefresh7707]

My buddy is running test e from another ugl than the one who makes my test e right now, he claims that my gear might not be legit because I have no pip. In reality I have a very very dull pain in my bicep. My first pin was done carefull with no movment at all so no damage to the muscle should have been caused, also I pushed very slow with a 27 g and no burn after aspiration and injection. So I'm looking to prove him wrong, no pip doesn't equal bunk gear agree?

[Metalject]

The pain of an injection during or post injection is not what determines quality gear. Good gear should not hurt.

[qscgugcsq]

The quantity of solvent used determine the pain.

If the concentration in test is high more solvant MUST be used.

Thats why t400 in more painfull.

However, some ugl may use high quantity of solvent for small concentration because they want to be sure that it stay in solution because the purety may be lacking... So more is needed to cover the impurety.

They also can put solvent in oil without any testosterone in it.
It will cause great pain but no result what so ever...

So no pip is not a sign of good or bad gear.

Good ugl try to minimize the pain.

[AlinSR]

PIP does not determine quality of product.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Cool I knew it he still thinks I'm wrong lol. Thanks guys.

[Lunk1]

Like Metel stated in his last sentence...lack of PIP could just as easily mean that the gear is very good vs bunk!

[tdoe11]

I have a script from the doc for test. Watson cyp has ZERO PIP. Literally 10 mins after doing it I could forget what side I used.

[Dougiefresh7707]

I have a script from the doc for test. Watson cyp has ZERO PIP. Literally 10 mins after doing it I could forget what side I used.

That's what I want a script lol I'm sure it's good gear it's only been 3 days tho so I will find out in a few weeks.

[Back In Black]

That's what I want a script lol I'm sure it's good gear it's only been 3 days tho so I will find out in a few weeks.

Don't worry, you'll be on TRT sooner than most I expect.

[panntastic]

Panntastic guide and insight into PIP

[Dougiefresh7707]

Don't worry, you'll be on TRT sooner than most I expect.

Probably not I know I don't know it all,but I'm not missing anything in my cycle so there should be no reason that my system won't bounce back. I'm 24 in a month I would not say I'm to young. But thanks for your opinion bib.

[Back In Black]

Probably not I know I don't know it all,but I'm not missing anything in my cycle so there should be no reason that my system won't bounce back. I'm 24 in a month I would not say I'm to young. But thanks for your opinion bib.

That's ok, it's a free opinion, I have plenty of them. How long is this first cycle of yours anyway, 16 weeks or longer?

[MajorPectorial]

Mt first.cycle at 32 was 6wk. Then it was 8wks. This one 12, , but that was after moooooonnnnths of research before i joined here. Then arpund 4-6 months talking to ppl whove had years experience.
So far.
Sometimes bit of a swell. Usually when ive just started. Always alcohol med swab the area before pinning. Warm the pin inc solution pre pin to warm to finger temp (takes it over my bods temp), ive noticed doing this reduces to 'pip' chance somewhat and is helluva lot easier to use.

So. Same gear ive had pip and no pip.

To reduce chance i;
1, penetrate one smooth movement.
2, Dont pull to hard to ensure not in vessel
3, Warm solution in pin (lid on. Pin end out. Obv)
4, sanitize area of pin point
5, Leave pin after deposit for 15-20 secs.

This is just me personally and after looking at every angle i came to these guidelines for my own use. Pinning the right muscle at the right points shpuld be a given id expect.

[panntastic]

;
1, penetrate one smooth movement.

Awesome advice

[Dougiefresh7707]

That's ok, it's a free opinion, I have plenty of them. How long is this first cycle of yours anyway, 16 weeks or longer?

32 weeks actually, lol no 10 weeks that's it, but thanks again.

[MajorPectorial]

Awesome advice

Trust me.im an expert! Pmsl!

[Back In Black]

32 weeks actually, lol no 10 weeks that's it, but thanks again.

So only 5-6 weeks of test e?

[Dougiefresh7707]

So only 5-6 weeks of test e?

No bw was normal shit I was taking no affect on test level so it was bs so 10 weeks, twice a week test e so the ester will run out 2 weeks after last pin so you can call it 12 if you want I read Mickey Knox thread on beginner cycles and decided to just do that. Hcg twice a week, liquidex .25 eod,letro on hand and clomid and nolva for pct have everything in my drawer nothing missing.

[Back In Black]

No bw was normal shit I was taking no affect on test level so it was bs so 10 weeks, twice a week test e so the ester will run out 2 weeks after last pin so you can call it 12 if you want I read Mickey Knox thread on beginner cycles and decided to just do that. Hcg twice a week, liquidex .25 eod,letro on hand and clomid and nolva for pct have everything in my drawer nothing missing.

Interested in seeing your bloodwork, can you post a copy?

[Dougiefresh7707]

Sure I could when I get home want my social too lol jk ill post it later.

[Dougiefresh7707]

I am going to get next bw done in 4-5 weeks and after pct so I will post those to doc said it all checks out but I'm sure the levels aren't optimal personally expected my total test to be higher but he said that its deffinetly not low.

[OnTheSauce]

your bloodwork looks good man.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Interested in seeing your bloodwork, can you post a copy?

There you go