Thread: First cycle
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06-10-2013, 12:08 AM #1New Member
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First cycle
Ive been looking into takeing a first cycle. Everyone says a test cycle is good, dont want to inject would rather do pills. Need to know where to get stuff and the proper pct to take. Anyone know?
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06-10-2013, 12:12 AM #2
We cant tell you where to get steroids and let a vet now if you were messaged by someone claiming they can get you. You can get your SERMs, AI's, needles at ar-r .com. If you are not comfortable with injecting yourself then anabolic steroids aren't for you. Injecting is really not that bad and you will get used to it quickly. Do some more research, especially on the danger of oral only cycles.
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06-10-2013, 12:19 AM #3
What are you stats teenBB??
No fishing!!!
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06-10-2013, 12:24 AM #4New Member
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The only thing is that i dont think id be able to inject myself haha
And my stats are around 190-200 depending on if i drink all my water that day and, 5ft 10 and 14% body fat
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06-10-2013, 12:26 AM #5Originally Posted by TeenBodybuilder
Orals are junk!
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06-10-2013, 12:27 AM #6
Stats Plz:
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How old are you?
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06-10-2013, 12:28 AM #7New Member
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06-10-2013, 12:28 AM #8
So I notice you are avoiding the main thing regarding the stats: YOUR AGE SIR? PLZ!!!
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06-10-2013, 12:29 AM #9New Member
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Im 20 and have been lifting since i was 14
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06-10-2013, 12:29 AM #10Originally Posted by TeenBodybuilder
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06-10-2013, 12:33 AM #11
Well, it would be best that you wait till you are 25 when you have stop growing and at the most maturest; it will show to present best effective results for you. More research is needed regarding if you are even for this. Due to the fact your question wanting oral rather then inject.
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06-10-2013, 12:35 AM #12New Member
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The only reason being oral over injection is because i dont care about needles but i dont think id be able to put on in myself
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06-10-2013, 12:46 AM #13
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06-10-2013, 12:47 AM #14
The answers to your questions have already been covered ad nauseum on this forum. Everyone who doesn't know enough about steroids to be taking them yet always asks them.
Info on proper PCT can be found in the PCT forum.
PCT (POST CYCLE THERAPY)
While I would love to take you at your word, this is the internet. Everyone is 200lbs, has been training for years, eats correctly, and has 12-15% bf... Until they post pics. You are very young. I did steroids at 20 and thankfully I've not had any problems to date (43 now). I have a grown child but could very well have not had her if the odds had swung the other way. Its a big decision, bigger than you can comprehend simply because of your inexperience with life itself. I'm not saying youre stupid, just young and without the benefit of 20 more years of hindsight.
Please read this before making a decision:
When you SHOULDN'T use AAS imho....
The young and Steroids
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...%2A%2A%2A.html
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06-10-2013, 12:54 AM #15New Member
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My nutrition is great and ive had great sucess and have taken pro hormones recently getting even greater sucess.
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06-10-2013, 12:56 AM #16New Member
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Is there anywhere where I can get info on where to buy stuff?
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06-10-2013, 12:58 AM #17Originally Posted by TeenBodybuilder
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06-10-2013, 12:59 AM #18New Member
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I always find stuff then when i call and ask they end up being alternatives or dont ship to the US, bad luck on my part
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06-10-2013, 01:01 AM #19
Read this ***Cycles going wrong for the young***
and also this
There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.
I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.
I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus
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06-10-2013, 02:42 AM #20
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06-10-2013, 03:26 AM #21
Try the ar-r banner above. This isn't a source board. You'll get into trouble asking where to get illegal substances here. (banned likely)
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06-10-2013, 05:52 PM #22New Member
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Since roids are obvously illegal how can so many people get away with using them?
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06-10-2013, 06:00 PM #23Originally Posted by TeenBodybuilder
Not many people here will endorse prohormones or anabolics before 25 years of age.
Injections are far less painful than liver failure induced by hepatotoxic oral steroids .
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06-10-2013, 06:02 PM #24Originally Posted by TeenBodybuilder
You can ask questions about the compounds and use but please avoid discussions of where to purchase an how much they cost. These items are against forum rules.
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06-10-2013, 06:03 PM #25Originally Posted by TeenBodybuilder
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06-10-2013, 06:08 PM #26New Member
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Sorry and i dont count my macros but today i ate the following
Breakfest- 2 packs oatmeal and 2 egg whites
Meal 2- apple and whey protein shake
Lunch- lean turkey breast, swess, and whole wheat bread with a yogurt
Meal 4- 8oz chicken breast with 1 cup brown rice
Pre workout meal- a can of tuna and a bananna
Post workout- whey shake
Dinner hr later- 8oz talapia and 1/2 brown rice
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06-10-2013, 06:09 PM #27
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06-10-2013, 06:13 PM #28New Member
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I usually do but im doing extra school this summer so i havent gotten a chance to make a super detailed meal plan yet and lbm is 145.6
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06-10-2013, 06:19 PM #29Originally Posted by Times Roman
Too many people see steroids as some kind I magic juice you take and voila - you grow muscles like a professional body builder. Absolutely not. Anabolics are dangerous when misused and will not yield the results you seek until you understand how vital nutrition and training are. Just "eating and lifting" isn't enough. They have to be planned to support your goals because the training and nutrition you follow for gains won't be the same for reducing body fat.
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06-10-2013, 06:24 PM #30
same with slim fast (i'm using this as a tangent analogy, fyi)
my buddy's sister decided on the slim fast diet. just a shake for bfast and lunch, sound pretty simple, right?
well, she began to gain weight. and more than just a little.
she said "it's not working"
so I'm like "how so?"
so she begins to explain, "well, for breakfast, I eat what I normally eat, and then drink my slim fast shake....."
I'm like "darling... you drink the shake INSTEAD of your normal bfast!"
"oh..... INSTEAD?"
ding ding ding!
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06-10-2013, 06:26 PM #31New Member
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I know i got with a nutrition and put that meal plan together for when i cut weight which i am right now i usuay meet with one right around may for a leaner plan and around august to put together a plan to bulk for the school year
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06-10-2013, 06:37 PM #32
Lol! Opposite that I see.too often: 'bodybuilder' buys a crapload of weight gainer, creatine, and supplements. A month later he complains about not gaining weight and getting weaker instead of stronger. 'What did you eat today?' You ask. He says: 'creatine, weight gainer and vitamins'. What about FOOD!
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06-10-2013, 06:39 PM #33Originally Posted by TeenBodybuilder
We all have jobs, family, school, etc but if you're really dedicated to this and not looking for a quick fix, then you'll put the effort into all aspects of your fitness, not just those that conveniently fit your schedule.
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06-10-2013, 06:39 PM #34New Member
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Haha i have so many friends like that and they always try telling me that i am already on steroids because i continue to see results and they dont, ill ask what they ate and they tell me chips and crap like that with maybe one good meal and a mass gain shake lol
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