No tren cough - hit a vein - bunk gear?

[BruceyBaby]

Hi all,

Last night when I pinned my right quad with 200mg tren E, I hit a vein as I injected, but when I aspirated there was no blood, so I continued to inject. After I pulled the needle out, there was a lot of blood. I felt like I was going to die, low blood pressure, sweating, dizzy; but no cough at all... which leads me to think my reaction was psychological? I was anticipating the cough, so I freaked out?

I actually changed the needle before injecting, so there was no oil leaking out after ejecting the bubbles. Is this why I avoided the cough? (so there was no oil leaking out of the needle as it passed through the vein, so no oil went into the blood stream)

Or is my gear bunk? (99% its real)

Any advice as to what happened, greatly appreciated!

[bdos]

Are you on a tren only cycle? And how long? I think you just psyched yourself out. Just because you didnt cough doesnt mean its bunk gear

[Chx beach 79]

Cough doesn't happen all the time. 23 and on tren ! Super risky and not smart!

[austinite]

There is no such thing as Tren cough. Relax.

[zeedubz]

If you hit a vein .. and injected a full cc into it .. u would have passed out , began to choke .. or have died. You most likely went through a vein , and a little bit of the test may have gone in your blood stream.

[BruceyBaby]

Are you on a tren only cycle? And how long? I think you just psyched yourself out. Just because you didnt cough doesnt mean its bunk gear

I'm on test e as well, but i pinned it separately!

[BruceyBaby]

Cough doesn't happen all the time. 23 and on tren! Super risky and not smart!

Does it say i'm 23? I'm 24 going on 25 in a few months. I know its extremely suppressive but i'm taking hcg from week 4, and my tren dose is considered rly low isnt it

[kelkel]

Start your HCG now.

[BruceyBaby]

Ok - is 1000 iu per week in 1 shot ok?

[JohnnyVegas]

Split your hCG into multiple injections. I do 350iu twice a week.

Also, if you didn't cough then you didn't get oil into the bloodstream and all is well. You will eventually get some in the blood despite seeing no blood when you aspirate . Stop injecting if you start to cough since the coughing will go on for a while and the last thing you want is more oil in the blood (which goes to the lungs for clearing). You may feel like you are going to die but you won't.

Don't worry about getting blood after the injection. It happens. No biggie as long as you don't get it on something that your significant other cares about.

[BruceyBaby]

Thank you v much for your help johnny

[austinite]

If you hit a vein .. and injected a full cc into it .. u would have passed out , began to choke .. or have died. You most likely went through a vein , and a little bit of the test may have gone in your blood stream.

You need to merge your accounts, you can't have multiple accounts. Please make a request in the 1 on 1 section to avoid having both accounts deactivated.

[crazy mike]

There is no such thing as Tren cough. Relax.

I agree. And do you think you would die it the needle got oil on your vein and in your blood , you people huh. If you hit a vein so what, you'll never be able to stay in it to plunge into the vein. You do puncture tinny capillaries some brining blood to the area and some that take the blood back to the vein. So you are always getting oil in your blood steam to an extent.
As I just said on another thread to be sterile never wipe anything on the needle it is sterile and your blood is you blood and will not harm you. If you wipe it with alcohol you might get some Fvckin STING. What a deal.
Now I don't believe in this Tren cough just like Austinite, bunk. I say if someone is that freaked out about pinning themselves with steroids then Don't. ...crazy mike

[BruceyBaby]

Thanks for the input guys, really appreciate it. Love to learn about everything!

A little off topic, am i really too young for low dose 200mg tren ? Im turning 25 soon. I'm starting hcg on the advice of kelkel and my pct is lined up. I have clomid and nolva. My recovery is usually very good.

I think tren isnt suitable for someone who is 21, and i know a few guys who started between 22-24 and they're in the 300-500mg range and they dont seem concerned!

[austinite]

What does tren have to do with age? Anything under 25 is silly...

[crazy mike]

What does tren have to do with age? Anything under 25 is silly...

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Ooops ! yep !!!! ...crazy mike

[human project]

There is no such thing as Tren cough. Relax.

I get tren cough bad... It's defiantly a real thing

[austinite]

I get tren cough bad... It's defiantly a real thing

Can you share with us exactly how this occurs from tren specifically?

[songdog]

Why do people think that if they dont have sides their gear is bunk? Can someone show me where it is written.That you neen to suffer while cycling tren .

[austinite]

Why do people think that if they dont have sides their gear is bunk? Can someone show me where it is written.That you neen to suffer while cycling tren.

No shit. Poor injection technique and everyone screams tren cough...

[BruceyBaby]

Sorry to go off topic completely again, but I didn't want to make a new topic... I started my hcg today, do I need to take anything with it? I heard it can cause gyno, so do I need adex? I'm doing 1000iu per week in 1 shot (couldn't do less spread out for reasons )

[crazy mike]

Sorry to go off topic completely again, but I didn't want to make a new topic... I started my hcg today, do I need to take anything with it? I heard it can cause gyno, so do I need adex? I'm doing 1000iu per week in 1 shot (couldn't do less spread out for reasons )

Bruce buddy, you need to start you own thread on another site Q & A or they might have a site dedicated to your subject. Please repost. Better inf for you, more people tpo hone in on your topic. Thanks ! ...the old crazy mike

[austinite]

Bruce buddy, you need to start you own thread on another site Q & A or they might have a site dedicated to your subject. Please repost. Better inf for you, more people tpo hone in on your topic. Thanks ! ...the old crazy mike

This is his thread.

[crazy mike]

This is his thread.

Mis-stated on my part. He will get much more response it he starts a new thread about his topic, you know everyone can come to the topic if they want.
So I stand to corrected on the OP part. Sorry and thanks.....crazy mike

[JohnnyVegas]

Sorry to go off topic completely again, but I didn't want to make a new topic... I started my hcg today, do I need to take anything with it? I heard it can cause gyno, so do I need adex? I'm doing 1000iu per week in 1 shot (couldn't do less spread out for reasons )

You don't need to take anything with hCG . It doesn't cause gyno. You definitely don't need Adex.

Spread that dose out if at all possible. If you don't have enough syringes go to AR-R .com - they cost pennies. Not saying that is your problem, but it is the only reason I could think of.

[Red Bastard]

There is no such thing as Tren cough. Relax.

Do you state this because you have not experienced it yourself?
Plenty of "bro science" to refute your claim...
Care to elaborate?

[austinite]

Do you state this because you have not experienced it yourself?
Plenty of "bro science" to refute your claim...
Care to elaborate?

I say it because no one can prove it. Show me exactly what about tren compound that causes the cough. Exactly. Those who claim it need to prove it, not me . and what the hell is that broscience statement? doesn't make sense.

[Red Bastard]

Oh come on. I say bro science because there are no proper studies being done, on the subject, so we must rely on shared experiences aka "bro science". Why does no one speak of test cough, or masteron cough, yet there are plenty of anecdotes related to tren cough? There must be something to it.

Until recently, I had no experience, and no opinion, on the subject. Then, last week, while injecting .4ml tren a and .4ml masteron prop, into a delt, I had an interesting experience. I believe that my injection technique is solid. I gauge my spot, by the tattoos on my shoulders, and inject close, but not exactly, into the same spot. This time, it felt odd going in, like a different texture. Instantly, there was a tickle in my throat and lungs. Thinking nothing of it, as one of my sons had been coughing earlier, even though i never get sick, I aspirated, as usual, and started injecting, though the coughing was certainly making it difficult. When I pulled out, the blood flowed so strong, that it was down to my wrist, before I even registered it. Nicked a vein, on the way in, obviously. Cough went away, in a few minutes, not to return.
Does my experience prove anything? Of course not, but, it can be added to the hundreds of other accounts, in the collective bro science, of tren cough...

[austinite]

Oh come on. I say bro science because there are no proper studies being done, on the subject, so we must rely on shared experiences aka "bro science". Why does no one speak of test cough, or masteron cough, yet there are plenty of anecdotes related to tren cough? There must be something to it.

Until recently, I had no experience, and no opinion, on the subject. Then, last week, while injecting .4ml tren a and .4ml masteron prop, into a delt, I had an interesting experience. I believe that my injection technique is solid. I gauge my spot, by the tattoos on my shoulders, and inject close, but not exactly, into the same spot. This time, it felt odd going in, like a different texture. Instantly, there was a tickle in my throat and lungs. Thinking nothing of it, as one of my sons had been coughing earlier, even though i never get sick, I aspirated, as usual, and started injecting, though the coughing was certainly making it difficult. When I pulled out, the blood flowed so strong, that it was down to my wrist, before I even registered it. Nicked a vein, on the way in, obviously. Cough went away, in a few minutes, not to return.
Does my experience prove anything? Of course not, but, it can be added to the hundreds of other accounts, in the collective bro science, of tren cough...

1000's of people cough from test, winny, anavar , dbol , mast... you name it. I hear it all the time. Not sure why you don't hear it. So you got oil in the vein and you coughed, what is that supposed to tell me? Like you said, it does not prove anything.

Not looking for stories, looking for science. If you can't tell me what about this compound, and what exact interaction it has with whatever it is you think is causing it.... then I can't say there is such a thing.

No offense, but there are very few people who know how to inject. If, a big IF.. what you're saying is true, then every single person would experience the same. Tren makes everyone sweat and we know exactly why, so tell me exactly why you cough and why it doesn't happen to everyone.

[auswest]

Oh come on. I say bro science because there are no proper studies being done, on the subject, so we must rely on shared experiences aka "bro science". Why does no one speak of test cough, or masteron cough, yet there are plenty of anecdotes related to tren cough? There must be something to it.

Until recently, I had no experience, and no opinion, on the subject. Then, last week, while injecting .4ml tren a and .4ml masteron prop, into a delt, I had an interesting experience. I believe that my injection technique is solid. I gauge my spot, by the tattoos on my shoulders, and inject close, but not exactly, into the same spot. This time, it felt odd going in, like a different texture. Instantly, there was a tickle in my throat and lungs. Thinking nothing of it, as one of my sons had been coughing earlier, even though i never get sick, I aspirated, as usual, and started injecting, though the coughing was certainly making it difficult. When I pulled out, the blood flowed so strong, that it was down to my wrist, before I even registered it. Nicked a vein, on the way in, obviously. Cough went away, in a few minutes, not to return.
Does my experience prove anything? Of course not, but, it can be added to the hundreds of other accounts, in the collective bro science, of tren cough...

For me personally it has been a short ester thing, obviously a small amount of the gear is making its way directly into the blood stream upon injection, i am of the understanding the ba content is greater in shorter esters, which may be causing that burn/cough in your chest.

After capping a drawing needle from prop/tren ace mix yesturday I placed it in my mouth as I fitted my injecting needle the small amount on my tongue I could feel it burning my throat and down towards my chest, a very similar feeling to coughing upon injection.

[Red Bastard]

Ahh, very interesting Auswest Gonna have a taste of my tren a 100 myself, tonight, and compare it to a taste of my test cyp 300.

And, thank you Austinite, for the insight. I will certainly endeavour to do more google research, on the subject of injection coughing... All I can really say, is that people seem to react differently, to some things. First time I've nicked a vein. Perhaps I should try to hit the same spot, with some test, by itself...
Considering the nature of tren's intended usage, I doubt we'll see any good science, on the subject, any time soon...

[panntastic]

The ba does not differ from short to long esters
I believe it may be the ester itself and the acid used to create it causing the cough
But that's total speculation

As for taste all steroids taste different
Tren e is very different from tren a
And if you dropped 0.1ml on the tongue you would only be dropping 0.02ml ba so tasting would be hard

[auswest]

The ba does not differ from short to long esters
I believe it may be the ester itself and the acid used to create it causing the cough
But that's total speculation

As for taste all steroids taste different
Tren e is very different from tren a
And if you dropped 0.1ml on the tongue you would only be dropping 0.02ml ba so tasting would be hard

Damn there goes my theory.. I thought that's why pip can be much greater when using prop over longer esters..

There is no denying that people can/do experience a cough using tren, but this is certainly not individual to tren.

[austinite]

I think the whole short ester deal is because of the frequent pinning. More chance of a cough. You Just notice it more often.

[panntastic]

I think the whole short ester deal is because of the frequent pinning. More chance of a cough. You Just notice it more often.

Exactly if pinning ed there a huge chance it's going to happen

[auswest]

I think the whole short ester deal is because of the frequent pinning. More chance of a cough. You Just notice it more often.

You're probably right

[panntastic]

Damn there goes my theory.. I thought that's why pip can be much greater when using prop over longer esters..

There is no denying that people can/do experience a cough using tren, but this is certainly not individual to tren.

Don't know if you've had a read but as for pip here are my thoughts

Panntastic guide and insight into PIP

[panntastic]

This is an extract from a pharm grade test e products contra indications
Thus proving its not just tren that causes "tren cough"

There have been rare postmarketing reports of transient reactions involving urge to cough, coughing fits, and respiratory distress immediately after the injection of DELATESTRYL, an oil-based depot preparation (see DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION).

http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed...4-0800200c9a66

[austinite]

This is an extract from a pharm grade test e products contra indications
Thus proving its not just tren that causes "tren cough"

There have been rare postmarketing reports of transient reactions involving urge to cough, coughing fits, and respiratory distress immediately after the injection of DELATESTRYL, an oil-based depot preparation (see DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION).

DELATESTRYL (TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE) INJECTION, SOLUTION [ENDO PHARMACEUTICALS SOLUTIONS INC]

Well there you have it....

[panntastic]

So I don't want to hear the god damn phrase tren cough again lol