Liquidex dosing question

**ChestNBack** · 06-13-2013, 05:49 PM

Hello guys. Liquidex just arrived. Third week of my cycle actually starts today. 50mg dbols ED and 600mgs test E a week. Symptoms are tender/sensitive nipples to the touch. I have always had lumps behind my nipples since I hit puberty. Should I just dose this out with a reg dose starting today or should I play the catch up game and dose a little higher to kill the symptoms now. Also I understand the dosing protocol for pill form but I'm not sure about liquid form. The plunger that was sent is a total of 1ml. With the numbers going 1-10 (10 being 1ml) Really appreciate the helpIf I can get a few suggestions on dosing that would be great and I can go from there. Also do I pull into the plunger and just drop down my throat?

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**OdinsOtherSon** · 06-13-2013, 05:59 PM

What are you calling a "reg dose?" One full mL will give you 1mg of adex. Usually 0.25mg eod is the starting point (and is where I would start if I were you.) So, draw to the .25 mark and down the hatch.

**ChestNBack** · 06-13-2013, 07:21 PM

Sorry to ask what may be considered a dumb question but if it was cough medicine I wouldn't be so concerned. But if .5 mg would be the #5 on the plunger being that the plunger is numbered 1-10 does that mean .25 would be the half way mark between #1-5 on the plunger?

**austinite** · 06-13-2013, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by ChestNBack

Sorry to ask what may be considered a dumb question but if it was cough medicine I wouldn't be so concerned. But if .5 mg would be the #5 on the plunger being that the plunger is numbered 1-10 does that mean .25 would be the half way mark between #1-5 on the plunger?

There are 10 marks on the syringe. If it's 1mg per ML, you would divide 1 by 10, that will give you .1 which is the amount of milligrams per mark. So for .5, you would go to the 5th mark.

**auswest** · 06-13-2013, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by ChestNBack

Sorry to ask what may be considered a dumb question but if it was cough medicine I wouldn't be so concerned. But if .5 mg would be the #5 on the plunger being that the plunger is numbered 1-10 does that mean .25 would be the half way mark between #1-5 on the plunger?

That's correct that is a 1ml syringe 1-10 are each 1/10th of a ml, the liquidex is dosed at 1mg/ml so nice and easy to work out.. .25mg = .25 ml, which is a quarter of a ml which would be .25 on that 1ml syringe, half way between .2-.3

**auswest** · 06-13-2013, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

There are 10 marks on the syringe. If it's 1mg per ML, you would divide 1 by 10, that will give you .1 which is the amount of milligrams per mark. So for .5, you would go to the 5th mark.

Too quick for me aust, sorry to butt in. sitting here bored at work in training..

**ChestNBack** · 06-13-2013, 11:00 PM

Okay one more question when I took my dose today it hit the back of my tongue. Do I need to stick that plunger deep down so the dose goes straight in the throat or if it hits the tongue will water take care of it so it can get in my system? Or should I buy some empty pill caps and fill them with the dose and just swallow the capsule? Suggestions?

**ChestNBack** · 06-14-2013, 09:23 AM

Bump

**austinite** · 06-14-2013, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by ChestNBack

Okay one more question when I took my dose today it hit the back of my tongue. Do I need to stick that plunger deep down so the dose goes straight in the throat or if it hits the tongue will water take care of it so it can get in my system? Or should I buy some empty pill caps and fill them with the dose and just swallow the capsule? Suggestions?

That's what she said... And no. It doesnt matter. just put it under the tongue.

**ChestNBack** · 06-14-2013, 01:41 PM

So a liquid Orals can be absorbed under the Tongue? Also Austin or anyone else I decided to bump up to .25 Ed until my tenderness is gone. I know recommended is EOD but since I have symptoms I want to try to get rid of it quick and then go back to EOD. Is this cool?

**OdinsOtherSon** · 06-14-2013, 03:37 PM

Should be fine...just take care not to crash your E2. I would revert back to eod when the tenderness has subsided. My $0.02

**MR10X** · 06-15-2013, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by ChestNBack

Hello guys. Liquidex just arrived. Third week of my cycle actually starts today. 50mg dbols ED and 600mgs test E a week. Symptoms are tender/sensitive nipples to the touch. I have always had lumps behind my nipples since I hit puberty. Should I just dose this out with a reg dose starting today or should I play the catch up game and dose a little higher to kill the symptoms now. Also I understand the dosing protocol for pill form but I'm not sure about liquid form. The plunger that was sent is a total of 1ml. With the numbers going 1-10 (10 being 1ml) Really appreciate the helpIf I can get a few suggestions on dosing that would be great and I can go from there. Also do I pull into the plunger and just drop down my throat?

If you have some Nolvadex or Clomid i would use some of that untill the Adex has built up in your system to block the Estrogen from your nipples.
An AI alone may not stop the gyno..You should awlays keep some Nolvadex on hand when you do steroids ,you will aslo need it for PCT.......

**OdinsOtherSon** · 06-15-2013, 08:37 AM

Adex has an immediate effect on E2 levels. Doesn't require time to "build up." If he were going to use a serm for that purpose (combating gyno), Rolaxifene would be the way to go.

**ChestNBack** · 06-15-2013, 08:44 AM

but Adex should still kill my gyno symtoms, right?

**OdinsOtherSon** · 06-15-2013, 08:53 AM

Given the mild symptoms you described, it should. It seems you've caught it early.

**MR10X** · 06-15-2013, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by ChestNBack

but Adex should still kill my gyno symtoms, right?

No it probably wont at .25mg EOD.You will still have estrogen being produced and binding to your receptors in your nipples,Nolvadex will compete with the estrogen and gyno will shrink. I have tried adex at higher doses and it didnt get rid of all the gyno.....Try it and see what happens,you can always add in a SERM later.....
http://www.medicinenet.com/gynecomas...r_gynecomastia

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If you want to go it alone, ideally you'd get more Clomid and tamox and follow a dosing scheme like clomid 100/50/50/25 and tamoxifen 40/20/20/20 and continue (tamoxifen only) for a few weeks after gyno subsides. Of course if you don't see any improvement by 4 to 6wks, then I'd just stop then.

If you insist on only using what you have, then go clomid 50/50/25/25 and tamoxifen 20/20/20/10/10. I'd personally at the very least invest in more tamox.

Also there's a DHT gel that is available online that is supposedly very helpful for some cases of gyno - I think your case particularly. DHT gel is not available in the US so you could ask your doc to apply for special permission to import it (which is often done when a med is not available in US and alternative treatment options are few or have failed) or you could just order it yourself.

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