An acceptable Novice cycle?

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

I was wondering if 700mg/week of Testosterone Propionate (100mg injected every day) for 12 weeks with 50mg/every day of D-bol for the first 8 weeks and 400 mg/week (200mg injected Tuesday and Friday) of Trenbolone Enanthate starting on week 5 or week 6 is an acceptable novice cycle. This would be my first cycle ever. I've done a lot of research on different steroids, but I can't say I have much experience using them. I tried some oral steroids for a bit. Nothing too long. I wasn't consistent with them either. I noticed I felt funny sometimes. I would get chills and would feel very warm. Similar to a fever. I took 4 compounds at once. Test600x, Winn 50, Tren 75 and Clen. I had no way of knowing what caused this. I started taking them separately and noticed that it was probably Tren 75 that made me feel that way. It didn't always happen, but I'm pretty sure that that was what caused me to feel that way. I've read what people say about age, foundation, safety and diet. I'm 19, don't work out. Body fat is probably 20ish. Not sure. I have a 6 month supply of TUDCA and I have a poor diet. I was thinking about starting this October. I have about 2 weeks and was planning on dropping all the unhealthy meals and unnecessary snacks I eat. Really change my diet. Get the bloodwork I need to have done. Probably have somewhat high cholesterol. Start lifting some weights. Nothing too high. Something I can do many repetitions with. Maybe 10-20 pounds. I would also need to get some Aromasin. I was also wondering how many needles and syringes would be needed if this cycle were to be used. I've read many important threads on this site from knowledgeable members and also researched on other sites. I just want people to say something directly to ME. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

[austinite]

I only read the first sentence because I developed paragraphical blindness.

In response to your first sentence, way too much. Read this:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[EZ E]

I smell a troll.

[aussie made]

Mate do some more research. This cycle bad for many reasons. Your taking to much stuff each time, and you said yourself u got sides and not sure what coursed it. What are your stats and cycle history? 700mg week of prop is to high IMO

[aussie made]

I only red first couple lines aswell. After reading it all. A. Your a troll or b. your a fool if u are serious

[redz]

Seems like someone trying to get a a rise out of us. I say Troll.

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

No idea what troll means. No stats. I clearly stated that. I also said it would be my first cycle. You obviously didn't read it or pay attention.

[austinite]

No idea what troll means. No stats. I clearly stated that. I also said it would be my first cycle. You obviously didn't read it or pay attention.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...l-threads.html

[bass]

come on guys, he's 19 give him a break!

[crazy mike]

I say troll when he comes back rudely telling Vets "you obviously didn't read that." At 19 he's already screwed up. Say's he is experience, but is stupid about it all. Too many compounds , doesn't know where to get AI and on and on. ...crazy mike

[austinite]

^ No name calling.

[ppwc1985]

The answer is NO it's not an acceptable cycle for a novice. And at your age, it would be a life changing cycle in a bad way.

[sapo59]

You are way to young for AAS to start. Learn to eat and lift. Think about things and learn for the next about seven years...

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

Thank you. That's what I needed to hear. Even if the doses were to be dropped to let's say 500 mg of Test Propionate (100 mg injected Monday-Friday) and instead of 50 mg of Dbol everyday the first 8 week to 30 Mg everyday, but continue with Tren Enanthate the way I asked would it still be a bad novice cycle?

[redz]

You should not be using any steroids....

[austinite]

Thank you. That's what I needed to hear. Even if the doses were to be dropped to let's say 500 mg of Test Propionate (100 mg injected Monday-Friday) and instead of 50 mg of Dbol everyday the first 8 week to 30 Mg everyday, but continue with Tren Enanthate the way I asked would it still be a bad novice cycle?

You have an issue with your diet. There's no reason to cycle at your age. Visit the nutrition section and let them help you. They can teach you how to grow with food. At your age, you could cause damage to your underdeveloped endocrine system and halt your growth.

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

I never said I don't know where to get an AI. You obviously didn't read it either. Or didn't pay attention.

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

Ok thanks. Yeah my diet is complete garbage. I'll check that out.

[EZ E]

"I'm 19, don't work out. Body fat is probably 20ish. "

You also might want to start working out before you start steroids, just a thought.

[crazy mike]

You should not be using any steroids....

This...YOU ARE TO YOUNG AND IT IS NOT SAFE FOR YOU. There is no novice cycle for you. Anything you do if you do steroids at your age might just screw you dick as well as other heath problems for you life, your future. Some not reversible. OK, got that message SO you don't need an AI...crazy mike

[Ginger84]

Lately there has been a ton of very young individuals posting about starting a cycle and none of them want to listen... I say let them be if they don't wanna listen and soon we can say told you so..... Smh

[tox2501]

Lately there has been a ton of very young individuals posting about starting a cycle and none of them want to listen... I say let them be if they don't wanna listen and soon we can say told you so..... Smh

Man I wish it wouldn't come to this. I feel like they don't really understand how bad they can mess up.

[JackedJesse]

Please do not run that amount of drugs for your first cycle. Its way too much. I highly recommend running a single compound for your first cycle. Everyone will agree.

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

Got it. Thanks for the input.

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

For those of you who read my post, what could a Testosterone Propionate only cycle to do me if I ran 300mgs-500mgs per week for 12 weeks? Followed by Nolvadex 40mg 13th week and 20mg for both the 14th and 15th weeks.

[tgunn]

For those of you who read my post, what could a Testosterone Propionate only cycle to do me if I ran 300mgs-500mgs per week for 12 weeks? Followed by Nolvadex 40mg 13th week and 20mg for both the 14th and 15th weeks.

Without proper diet and training? Absolutely nothing!

[ottomaddox]

For those of you who read my post, what could a Testosterone Propionate only cycle to do me if I ran 300mgs-500mgs per week for 12 weeks? Followed by Nolvadex 40mg 13th week and 20mg for both the 14th and 15th weeks.

It could fvck you up very badly. Is limp dick worth it?

[ppwc1985]

We are all reading your post, we don't not encourage or give advice to someone your age. 25 is the safe age to start cycling and that's only with ex in the gym and kitchen. You will not get an answer that you want here. I would slow down, the ppl here know what they are talking about. There are some here who did not listen and are now facing the repercussions of their decisions. Take the advice given if your a smart young man. Go to the nutrition section and let them help you pack on some natural weight first. Good luck!

[EZ E]

If you take the time to read the stickies at the top of the forum, you can find all the answers you will need and educate yourself in the process. Since you don't seem to want to listen to anyone, that's the best advise you are going to get.

[bass]

For those of you who read my post, what could a Testosterone Propionate only cycle to do me if I ran 300mgs-500mgs per week for 12 weeks? Followed by Nolvadex 40mg 13th week and 20mg for both the 14th and 15th weeks.

seriously?! after all that's been said you still asked this questions?! what is it you're not getting, limb dick, shutdown for the rest of your life, screw up your self? any of these concern you at all?

[Red Bastard]

Well, I'm not gonna comment on your misguided cycle idea, however, I will ask this:

Were you aware that your "oral cycle" contained No Real Steroids?

I ask this, not in a disrespectful way, but to try to figure out how often people misread the claims from the site that you purchased them.

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

Yes I am fully aware it contained no real steroids. That is why I wanted to make the switch. Do you know what kind of results can be expected from that oral cycle I mentioned? If I do a lot of cardio, can that affect my gains in a bad way? Thank you EVERYBODY for your feedback.

[crazy mike]

Yes I am fully aware it contained no real steroids. That is why I wanted to make the switch. Do you know what kind of results can be expected from that oral cycle I mentioned? If I do a lot of cardio, can that affect my gains in a bad way? Thank you EVERYBODY for your feedback.

Your diet and training are what make your gains. Steroids just help the metabolism.

NOW you missed the point or you are ignoring it . NO one is going to help you further because you are too young. Stay away from any steroids and that's the advice we are all giving you. ...crazy mike

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

I appreciate it Mike. Does anybody know anything about Human Growth Hormone ? I just started looking into that.

[kronik420]

I appreciate it Mike. Does anybody know anything about Human Growth Hormone ? I just started looking into that.

HGH isn't really for cycling (6+ months minimum), most people that use it, use it for the rest of their lives

+ it is really expensive.. and you have to pin it twice daily..

maybe you should put some thought into your diet/training, if you can't make gains natty at 19 then it is a diet/training issue not a lack of steroids/HGH issue...

[HoMiiiCiiiDe]

Thank you knonik. I didn't know that.