Debate with friend over running tren alone

[Lewdizzle007]

Ok I'm 5'7, 200lbs starting my first cycle anavar 50mg and dura test 1cc twice a week....... I think this is ok......correct me if I'm wrong.
My friend is 5'7, 235lbs and says he gonna run only tren for 12 weeks. He says thts all he needs and will have better results then me......
I'm new to this but he says he's done it b4.

Any words of wisdom for us both?

[kelkel]

Your friends a "big" idiot. Tren is not test and test is needed as a base. It's ridiculously simple logic that your friend doesn't grasp.
You, if you stats bear it out, should only do test as a first cycle. Nothing more. Read Austinites education articles at the top of this forum and follow that plan.

[Bert]

Your friends a "big" idiot. Tren is not test and test is needed as a base. It's ridiculously simple logic that your friend doesn't grasp.
You, if you stats bear it out, should only do test as a first cycle. Nothing more. Read Austinites education articles at the top of this forum and follow that plan.

I know quite a few guys who run tren only and like the results.

[Lewdizzle007]

Your friends a "big" idiot. Tren is not test and test is needed as a base. It's ridiculously simple logic that your friend doesn't grasp.
You, if you stats bear it out, should only do test as a first cycle. Nothing more. Read Austinites education articles at the top of this forum and follow that plan.

Ok so u think I should be doing the dura for my first cycle then add the anavar to my 2nd cycle?
Wht is the worst tht can and will happen to friend? He swears his done this alone and has cut up and added strength in the past. ...lies? Or is this possible?

[austinite]

I know quite a few guys who run tren only and like the results.

They're all idiots... That's not what we preach here. Safety first, as we advocate men and womens health.

[Lewdizzle007]

They're all idiots... That's not what we preach here. Safety first, as we advocate men and womens health.

Wht would u suggest 2 us both? Yes I fishing for info because I wanna be safe and get maximum results.

[austinite]

Wht would u suggest 2 us both? Yes I fishing for info because I wanna be safe and get maximum results.

Read these and you'll understand. It will save you a lot of research time. If you're sincere about learning, you'll make time to read them before you post any more questions.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ffect-you.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...all-costs.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

[Sgt. Hartman]

I know quite a few guys who run tren only and like the results.

Testosterone is pretty much what makes us males and is an essential hormone in many aspects.

Tren while being more androgenic and anabolic is not a suitable replacement for testosterone and i'd question the judgment of anyone who says otherwise.

A trt dose of test at minimum is necessary imho.

[kelkel]

Testosterone is pretty much what makes us males and is an essential hormone in many aspects.

Tren while being more androgenic and anabolic is not a suitable replacement for testosterone and i'd question the judgment of anyone who says otherwise.

A trt dose of test at minimum is necessary imho.

Perfectly said.

[Java Man]

I know quite a few guys who run tren only and like the results.

Lots of people do things they shouldn't do and it turns out ok. That doesn't make it smart or safe. nobody said it won't give results to run tren alone, its just not wise.