First time Aas here and am looking for some tips and advice

Well to start things off Id like to begin with my stats currently
23 years old
6'3
224lbs
And between 15-18%bf (calibers say 15.7 but we all know those are jank)

I ran two PH stacks in the past during my lifting career and have never done anabolics. And it has been 2 years since I've used anything except protein/creating/preworkout/ multi vit

I've been doing a lot of reading here on the site as it is great for noobs such as myself, and am thinking of keeping the first two cycles I do very simple.

- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

And for pct the I'm thinking it is not necessary to run both nolvadex and clomid, so planning on running nolvadex at 40 40 20 20 two weeks after last injection.

Now for my questions.
I remember when I ran my PH cycle that I needed to do a 2 week preload of Hawthorne berry/saw palmetto/and milk thistle. Is this recommended on an anabolic injection cycle?

Also during pct of PH on top of tomoxifin citrate I also ran ds lean extreme and 2 weeks into pct added a test booster. Is this recommended or beneficial during pct of injectable?

I'm not planning on running the cycle for a good 2-3 months as I'm wanting to make sure I read and get as much information and advise from vets as possible.

All advice is welcome thank you-Murph

Good cycle protocol.

Can you please elaborate how you came to the conclusion that Clomiphene is not beneficial when coupled with nolvadex?

looks good!

To be honest I thought doubling up on such a beginner low stack would be a little bit over kill am I mistaken? If so ill defiantly grab some as it's going to be closer to 3 months before I start.

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Originally Posted by MurphDawgg485

To be honest I thought doubling up on such a beginner low stack would be a little bit over kill am I mistaken? If so ill defiantly grab some as it's going to be closer to 3 months before I start.

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get both. Look in the sticky threads for a link to why you need both. It's in the educational articles thread. I can't link because I'm on the phone.

Always be sure to base your decisions on science, not randomness :)

Thanks for the sound advice so far guys. I'm new to this board and it's awesome to be able to get from so many knowledgeable vets. Not sure what the protocol is on the forums but is it ok to keep this topic throughout the next few months as I will be having many more questions and updates along the ride to my decision as to if I'm ready and willing to take the plunge.

Some things to look forward to from me besides questions are

-pictures
-diet and macro plan (cutting the next three months before cycle)
-Prs on all lifts.

Hey guys, about what am I looking at price wise, including:2 week pre cycle, cycle, and post cycle? Obviously I know food is going to be my highest expense in the long run but during pre during and a month or 2 after pct I plan on having a 500-700 cal surplus on a 40-40-20 diet. During the next months leading up I'm in a deficit running 50 40 10

Does this diet sound pretty sound? Also big help on the pricing please

Did not realize prices cannot be discussed. My mistake