Test cyp

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 03:05 PM

Hey guys! Days ago I put my cycle... Consisted on test cyp and winstrol .. But by many advices i dicided just to ran trst cyp for about 8-10 weeks 250 mg and for pct nolvadex ( dont know if i should run clomid also)

This will be my first time on test..

Need some advices please to get it start!

Thankss

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 03:08 PM

Stats: 6 feet ( 1.84cm) 84-85 kilos bf% 12-13 25 yo

**DanB** · 12-23-2013, 03:30 PM

All the info is here if you look, read some relevant stickys here and in nutrition section and you will have a better understanding, I could spoonfeed you but unless you understand it yourself its pretty pointless

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 04:22 PM

Yeah i did a lot of research.. Also i took this begginer cycle from steroid .com that consist on 12 weeks with the same pct but i want to do it shorter, bout 8-10 weeks... My doubt is if i have to run an ai during cycle ... Cuz in the page doesnt explaim that.. Or iguess I must have it on hand in case of....i want some experts guys to kinda approve my test cycle before i run it hah please folks!

**Back In Black** · 12-23-2013, 05:20 PM

Read this then post your plan in detail

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 06:10 PM

I already read that bud

**DexterMorgan** · 12-23-2013, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rory88

Yeah i did a lot of research.. Also i took this begginer cycle from steroid .com that consist on 12 weeks with the same pct but i want to do it shorter, bout 8-10 weeks... My doubt is if i have to run an ai during cycle ... Cuz in the page doesnt explaim that.. Or iguess I must have it on hand in case of....i want some experts guys to kinda approve my test cycle before i run it hah please folks!

Originally Posted by Rory88

I already read that bud

Read it again.

**MuscleInk** · 12-23-2013, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rory88

Yeah i did a lot of research.. Also i took this begginer cycle from steroid.com that consist on 12 weeks with the same pct but i want to do it shorter, bout 8-10 weeks... My doubt is if i have to run an ai during cycle ... Cuz in the page doesnt explaim that.. Or iguess I must have it on hand in case of....i want some experts guys to kinda approve my test cycle before i run it hah please folks!

Steroid .com doesn't sell steroids . Those are alternatives. Like vitamins. Not steroids.

**MuscleInk** · 12-23-2013, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rory88

Yeah i did a lot of research.. Also i took this begginer cycle from steroid.com that consist on 12 weeks with the same pct but i want to do it shorter, bout 8-10 weeks... My doubt is if i have to run an ai during cycle ... Cuz in the page doesnt explaim that.. Or iguess I must have it on hand in case of....i want some experts guys to kinda approve my test cycle before i run it hah please folks!

Should be no doubt about an AI on cycle.

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 06:31 PM

I never said that steroid .com sells steroids ...i meant that i took that reference...

**MuscleInk** · 12-23-2013, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rory88

I never said that steroid.com sells steroids...i meant that i took that reference...

Ok, thanks for the clarification. When you said you "took this cycle" I misunderstood that you meant you got the information from the site and not their nutraceutical compounds.

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 08:08 PM

Thanks muscle ink ... So whats better ... To run test cyp for 8 weeks by its own or run test cyp 8 weeks with winstrol and then pct...?

(Nolvadex during cycle and clomid with nolva for pct)

**Bio-Active** · 12-23-2013, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rory88

Thanks muscle ink ... So whats better ... To run test cyp for 8 weeks by its own or run test cyp 8 weeks with winstrol and then pct...? (Nolvadex during cycle and clomid with nolva for pct)

8 weeks isn't long enough for a cycle with test cyp. You won't even likely start to make gains till week 6

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 08:37 PM

Got it... The reason is that im able to do a 6-8 week cycle in terms of time.( Work ) Now im on holidays so thats the reason i can make the cycle.. With good dieting resting and training..

Is there any poaaibility to do something.. Maybe changing the test to prop?.....

I want to build some mass by the way

**Bio-Active** · 12-23-2013, 08:39 PM

Prop would be the way to go for an 8 week cycle. What are your stats?

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 08:49 PM

Im 25 yo 1.84 cm (6 feet) 85 kilos (187 ) bf% 12-13

**Bio-Active** · 12-23-2013, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rory88

Im 25 yo 1.84 cm (6 feet) 85 kilos (187 ) bf% 12-13

training experience and nutrition?

**MuscleInk** · 12-23-2013, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

8 weeks isn't long enough for a cycle with test cyp. You won't even likely start to make gains till week 6

Thanks Jim, I was stuck in traffic.

Rory, peak serum concentrations of cypionate are achieved around 4-5 weeks. Your cycle should at least be 10 wks., 12 is preferred.

Nolvadex is a SERM. It'll block binding of estrogen to androgen receptors but it won't block aromatization of testosterone which is the cause of elevated serum estrogen. You need an AI on cycle.

**MuscleInk** · 12-23-2013, 08:55 PM

Jim's got you on the right path. If you want mass, it's ALL diet brother. You have to feed your beast to grow.

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**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 09:08 PM

Thanks u guys! Proviron and nolvadex is this good? As ai ... Arimidex is so fckn expensive ... I heard about this mix .. What do u think

**Bio-Active** · 12-23-2013, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rory88

Thanks u guys! Proviron and nolvadex is this good? As ai ... Arimidex is so fckn expensive ... I heard about this mix .. What do u think

no nolvadex is a serm used better for pct. Aromasin and arimidex are ai's for on cycle to lower circulating estrogen

**ANIMAL** · 12-23-2013, 09:13 PM

If you can't pay don't play. Don't cheap out looking for other options. This is your body, you only have one. If adex is expensive how do you eat a sufficient amount of food? To do it right it adds up.

Have you considered using HCG during your cycle?

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 09:22 PM

Mm got it .. So theres no another option instead of those ai?? (expensive as fck)

**Bio-Active** · 12-23-2013, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Rory88

Mm got it .. So theres no another option instead of those ai?? (expensive as fck)

i would not recommend using anything besides aromasin or arimidex as an AI.

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 09:28 PM

I know...im just seeing the possibilities if i cant of course i will not do it!

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 09:51 PM

In my country im able to find Evista-Raloxifeno ... Do u know it?

**Rory88** · 12-23-2013, 09:54 PM

Is a serm

**Igifuno** · 12-23-2013, 09:59 PM

ar-r .com has the AIs you need. l-dex at .25mg/eod or aromasin (exemestane) at 12.5mg/ed (which should be good for the dose you're considering).

Also, read this to help your understanding of why you need an AI on cycle.

The Dangers of Elevated Estrogen in Men

**Back In Black** · 12-24-2013, 01:38 AM

Rory you already had one crap cycle. If you can't do it properly don't do it.

As stated above if you can't afford your gear you can't afford food. There are plenty of ordering options out there for an AI.