Worth it to use now?

**importsrbetter** · 05-06-2014, 12:09 PM

Hi all.

I'm 23, 225lbs (about 20-30lbs overweight) and I have been lifting sporadically for the last 1.5 years. I do not have a good base of muscle. I have a lot of anadrol and anavar , as well as nolvadex and chlomid.
Is it worth it to start taking the anadrol+anavar stack now, while I'm trying to establish a base and lose weight, or should I wait until I'm done cutting? And while you're here, what is the dosage of chlomid (and/or nolva) for PCT, and for how long?

Thanks in advance

**Times Roman** · 05-06-2014, 12:43 PM

never run any steroid without a testosterone foundation.

never take steroids without sufficient time in the gym, and the proper muscular foundation.

never take steroids with excessive body fat %

best not to take two orals at the same time.

**importsrbetter** · 05-06-2014, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

never run any steroid without a testosterone foundation.

never take steroids without sufficient time in the gym, and the proper muscular foundation.

never take steroids with excessive body fat %

best not to take two orals at the same time.

Sorry do you mean doing a cyle of test first, before taking anything else?

**Times Roman** · 05-06-2014, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by importsrbetter

Sorry do you mean doing a cyle of test first, before taking anything else?

first cycle should be testosterone only

**VegasBody** · 05-06-2014, 09:11 PM

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**VegasBody** · 05-06-2014, 09:12 PM

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**Ashop** · 05-06-2014, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by importsrbetter

Hi all.

I'm 23, 225lbs (about 20-30lbs overweight) and I have been lifting sporadically for the last 1.5 years. I do not have a good base of muscle. I have a lot of anadrol and anavar , as well as nolvadex and chlomid.
Is it worth it to start taking the anadrol+anavar stack now, while I'm trying to establish a base and lose weight, or should I wait until I'm done cutting? And while you're here, what is the dosage of chlomid (and/or nolva) for PCT, and for how long?

Thanks in advance

MOST DEFINITELY WAIT!!! Get some solid training and diet under your belt before even considering
a cycle, Also BAD cycle idea,,do some homework before you jump into anything.

**importsrbetter** · 05-06-2014, 09:32 PM

My source recommended the stack, bought a lot of it so I'll have to use it up somehow stacked with other things. Thanks for the advice everyone, will wait 6 months or so.

**ironbeck** · 05-06-2014, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by importsrbetter

My source recommended the stack, bought a lot of it so I'll have to use it up somehow stacked with other things. Thanks for the advice everyone, will wait 6 months or so.

Your source is a money greedy ass hole, he is wrong!!! you should use some form of test during any cycle!

**DAAS** · 05-06-2014, 10:00 PM

Not only did he mean testosterone should be the only compound of your first cycle he also meant every cycle should contain testosterone. When you take any other compound, run testosterone at the same time. You're a man, you need testosterone.

Originally Posted by importsrbetter

Sorry do you mean doing a cyle of test first, before taking anything else?

**lovbyts** · 05-07-2014, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by importsrbetter

My source recommended the stack, bought a lot of it so I'll have to use it up somehow stacked with other things. Thanks for the advice everyone, will wait 6 months or so.

Originally Posted by ironbeck

Your source is a money greedy ass hole, he is wrong!!! you should use some form of test during any cycle!

If I was a car salesman and worked on a Toyota lot do you think I would tell you I think you are best going with a Volvo? He is trying to sell you what he has, not what you need.

You also need a 3rd option in your poll because it's none of the above as you are hearing from the others.