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Simple question I Understand the ester on both compounds and get my BW done when needed. Currently im running 1000mg a week test e in my cycle with deca. With good lab results strength and gains. Just out of curiosity if I wanted to run test p next year about how many mg would 1000mg test equal out to test P. Can any body shed some light on this matter.
Test is Test. 1000mg/wk of Test E equals 1000mg/wk of Test Prop. The blood saturation may be more consistent with Test Prop since the injections are ed or eod.
Got Ya, yea didn't why ugl make test p only in 100mg range while test e 250. Trying to add up how many bottles ill need ect...
It's hard to hold high concentration with a short ester like Prop. I've brewed 200mg/mil Prop and it always crashed. No biggie, I just warm it up before I inject. Longer esters like Cyp and Enth can hold much higher concentration per milliliter.
Also, if you do get test P in higher concentration such as 200mg you might not like the fact you cant walk for 2 or 3 days due to the PIP. Come one guys more is not better. I have to LOL when people say they are using test 400mg/mL and complain about the PIP Well you are getting what you paid for at least. Save a dollar and learn to deal with the PIP.
Ive got Test P that's 2 years old and perfect, smooth and never crashed.
pip sucks! There goes the idea for ed pins. You think even at 1 cc pip is a for sure thing ? Ed or eod? The reason I ask i because I plan on running next time test tren and primobaln, and if pip is destined then I rather use cyp or ent
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Originally Posted by z06vett
1000mg of test E has about as much testosterone as 850mg of test P.
This is wrong due to ester weights.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02
^^^I have also heard that the bioavailability of the testosterone is roughly 17% higher with Prop. I believe it actually says this on this website under 'steroid profiles'. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Please explain. Two products dosed at 100 mgs per ml should contain the same quantity of active ingredient regardless of ester.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog
Yeah, i would like to know this also if someone can explain. Is it just the frequency of dosing with a shorter ester? Also, what is it when test crashes? Is it bad or just a seperation of the powder and oil/alchohol?
the ester enth is longer and more stable and can be made to 250mg/ml where as prop is not, and at 150mg/ml its already pushing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by z06vett
100mg of prop is more test than 100mg of enth... but dont worry too much about that. just go by dose IMO
they calculate the ester and the test hormone as one... it is not the same amount of JUST "test" technically...Quote:
Originally Posted by bowldawg
only way you actually have 100% test is if its test suspention 100mg/ml ... then its 100mg...... with no ester.
i do like 300 and 400mg gear due to needing less volume... but depending who made it, it can hurt.. so i stick to around 300mg/ml if i have the option..Quote:
Originally Posted by lovbyts
I didn't realize they factored ester and hormone as one. Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop
Generally the shorter acting esters weigh less. Thus, the prop ester weighs less than the ethanate ester. Therefore 100mg of test P will have more pure testosterone once the ester is ripped off than 100mg of test E. Test suspension doesn't have an ester and thus 100mg equals 100mg.Quote:
Originally Posted by bowldawg
The idea works with tren, deca, etc. as far as esters go also.