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6'1
194.6lbs
13% bf
Test E 500mg/ wk
EQ 600mg/ wk
Mast E 600mg/ wk ( estro/bloat/strength )
Arimidex .5mg ed
Nolva / clomid pct
Could I add an oral for 4 weeks or so to help bulk up before the end? I'm on week 9....
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Yes, it is called back loading.
Awesome. What would be a the most effective oral, I don't have any experience with them and would like some input...Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Brown
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No disrespect but with those stats u need to learn how to eat.Quote:
Originally Posted by airprosonoma
What are your goals? I prefer to backload my orals(or injectables - depending on compound/goals)...
What were you thinking of running?
Looking to bulk, want to be 225 in the end. I'm at 194. I'm on week 9 of cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by NACH3
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Wanted to add DECA but my boy said no due to to what I'm on already. Any thoughts ?
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No disrespect but you dont look like you lift, even more if at week 9 of 1,7grs of steroids per week. :scratch:
Steroids are not a shortcut, you need a base of years and proper eating, training and good habits.
You have no right to be using gear, you don't look like you've even touched a weight beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by airprosonomaNo homo the chance to be, alive and breathing
I know this. I used to frequent the gym often and then I got into painkillers. I quit using , got in shape and no matter how much I ate I could not get past 170, I dove into this head first I admit but by the time I research everything I felt committed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.BB
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For what its worth I have learned a lit and gained a lot in the past 9 weeks.
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Adding Deca would be a huge mistake and a waste of money(I thought you said oral)?? Deca needs to be run at 10-12(preferably 12) due to its long acting ester!Quote:
Originally Posted by airprosonoma
TBH, I would've stuck to no gear until your base was there... But that's not the case, I woukdnt add anything just focus on leaning out a bit(just my humble opinion) GL to you!
Its never late for oral....
...wait, sorry was thinking of other type of oral.
Haha true enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr.BB
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Dbol sorry. Not decaQuote:
Originally Posted by NACH3
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Thanks!
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Ok... I'd still hold off and get your diet on track... W/out the proper diet you'll be unhappy w/the results(I don't bloat but thats all diet)... I'm not saying you don't but imo there's alwYs room for improvement(That goes for anyone/everyone - including me)... Always trying to find ways to better everything...Quote:
Originally Posted by airprosonoma
I'll take that. Thanks man.
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Our diet section is great! You can post up what you eat or ask ?'s about your own diet, good stuff...Quote:
Originally Posted by airprosonoma
No way that's 13%, I'm at 13 and there isn't even a comparison between the 2
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More recent. May be the shitty electronic machine at gym 13%
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Tbh, I would forget the backload for now. There is some truth I'm that your base is a bit lacking and I would guarantee your diet isn't up to snuff. The best thing you can do is get your diet straightened out ASAP. I fear back loading with an estrogenic oral will lead you to some serious problems that you aren't ready for.
545am banana protienshake ,Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Brown
830 amI eat 6 eggs 3 whites 3 whole with 2 packs steel rolled oats and a hand full of almonlds ,
930 am yogurt granola
12ish sandwich wheat bread made without sugar and roast beef meat
2pmish I eat fruit maybe bowl of cereal.
Dinner I eat steak or chicken.
Brown rice
Post workout shake and before bed I have whey casien shake.
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Isn't there some fat gain expected while bulking?
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Maybe I am eating too much, because I eat very clean and never anything with added sugars
Keep in mind. First cycle. When I started 2 months ago I was 170lbs
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Not eating enough imo, actually slowing your metabolism....
No one doesn't have to gain fat while bulking(if diet is clean and on point) your fat intake will be minimized while also reducing bf, I'd rather have quality le am muscle gains so I don't need to work so hard on cutting down later.... Just may .02
Just judging by your picture you are sorta skinny fat. It's not a knock but I am being truthful. I just wouldn't start adding compounds tbh. Take some time to fill out and get your base more solidified through time in the g and diet. Cycling at where you are at and adding more compounds will do very little in the long run. It's up to you what you do ultimately, just my .02Quote:
Originally Posted by airprosonoma
I agree with you guys. After thus cycle I will lay off for a while to gain a solid base and maybe try again later. After going through all this I may just want to go natural until I absolutely can't get anything els out of diet alone. Thanks for the help
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Yes you can. Have done it before myself many times.Quote:
Originally Posted by airprosonoma
how do you feel with that heavy dose of adex dammms
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Originally Posted by mikegilbert1986
It's only been 4 days since I started. I used aromasin till this point but always felt funny. It was from a rc company. The adex is pharma. I like it better so far bit I will be lowering that a bit
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Never knew there was an aas rights clause in the constitution.
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