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07-19-2015, 10:49 AM #1New Member
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tren acete sust 250 mass 400 help!
So I've done a pretty intense first cycle
dbol 40mg 6 weeks with mass 400 0.5 twice a week
6 weeks mass 400 3ml a week
Then 4 weeks tren acete 2ml a week with sust 250 1ml a week along with xxx solutions two a day
I have had no side affects and put on 10kg
My last shot of sust was 5 days ago and tren 3 I've just done my first shot of 80 units of hcg my next one will be next week
Can I carry on with tren for the next 2 weeks while I'm on hcg? I have read that I shouldn't do my tanmoxifin until the half life of my sust is over which is two weeks
Any advice????
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Wait... What?!?! What's your stats(age weight height bf%)???
Is this mass 400 real test(im assuming so) - You should have been running hCG /AI on cycle from the get go!
What about your AI? DA? What's your pct plan??
Don't mean to sound harsh - but this is a mess! Can you lay out everything(cycle) AI hCG DA, and dosages?? Plus your proposed pct protocol??
And doses of gear in mgs per wk not ml!
Any Blood work pre cycle mids for adjusting AI/DA, then post pct 6-8 wks
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Why would you even run a cycle at 23 and on top of that use the harshest compounds there is????
Stop now! So no on the Tren !!! Dude it's not as easy as sticking yourself w/a needle(or having a drink w/your friends) this is serious!Last edited by NACH3; 07-19-2015 at 11:59 AM.
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07-19-2015, 11:48 AM #4
Oh my! Are you Australian?
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07-19-2015, 12:01 PM #6New Member
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Alright guys apprectiate the conncern but roids are just another thing to me
And the mass 400 is test e 200mg drostallonne 100mg trenbolone 100mg
Can you guys help me with the pct quueston shall I just jump on my tamoxifen now ? Ive done my first Jab of hcg my next one will be next week but I was gonna carry on tren for 2 weeks will it counteract the hcg? Is there any point carrying on for 2 weeks? Shall I jump on my tamoxifen now or 2 weeks ? My last sust was Wednesday and should I wait til the half life is over?
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This is the most important part of any cycle - RECOVERY - and you don't have a pct plan??? Not to smart / drop Tren now.
Well it's in your best interest to stop the Tren asap!!! Your mix is test e and masteron ... I just checked...
All this ^^ above depends on when youd start your pct(something you should've known b4 you ever started - but then again you ran 3-4 different compounds not knowing what is causing what! No AI hcg (should be ran in cycle) / don't get your hCG blasting technique either)?!?! If your test is just test e yhen pct would be 14 after last pin... If you just stopped Tren yhen don't continue as its clearing while your test is... Fyi / in future when running a 19nor(long eater) run yiur test 2wks longer so the 19nor clears while your running your test! Read read read - educate b4 you medicate
Answer this - why would you do this w/out researching its effects - no BW I bet your E2 and prolactin are elevated - do you have any symptoms of gyno, or no libido no wood no lasting erections?!?!Last edited by NACH3; 07-19-2015 at 12:17 PM. Reason: Edited - drostanolone = mast
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07-19-2015, 12:26 PM #8New Member
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let me write it again I guess it doesn't make sense too much
This was my original 3 month cycle
Dbol 40mg a day for 6 weeks along with 0.5 of mass 400 which is a blend of test e 200mg drostolone 200mg and trenbolone 100mg, this blend is made in Cambridge and is very popular in the u.k I dont know if it's common over seas...
After 6 weeks I came off the dbol and increased my mass 400 to 3 jabs a week 1ml. Each my pct plan is hcg and tamoxifen
After my 3 months I decided to carry on for a month with trenbolone 2ml a week and sustanon 1ml a week along with xxx solutions one a day
i havnt had any side affects no sex problems no sleep problems no pains
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07-19-2015, 12:34 PM #9
Hope you are ready to pin test for the rest of your life.
Good luck with that crap pct.
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07-19-2015, 12:43 PM #10New Member
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What's wrong with hcg and tamoxifin?
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Did you read/research anything b4 you even started?? Just askin b/c this a mess... Read these...
The young and Steroids
***Cycles going wrong for the young***
HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
steroid .com/anabolic -steroids -questions-answers/541250-estrogen-prolactin-progesterone-management-gynecomastia -prevention-
reversal.html" target="_blank">http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s... reversal.html
These will help - the planning & executing first cycle will answer your questions and at what place you steered wrong.... GLLast edited by NACH3; 07-19-2015 at 02:41 PM.
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07-19-2015, 02:37 PM #12
Read this
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
Work out where you went very wrong and post your pct plan. You're likely going to have a really bumpy ride recovering.mlets see how blasé you are about roofs just being another thing.
Stop your tren immediately and run your sust for another 10 days.
What is your
Age
Height
Weight
Bodyfat %
Also, whoever advised you on this cycle needs a kick in the cvnt.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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Profile says 23... He never answered my stats ?...
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07-19-2015, 02:59 PM #14
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07-19-2015, 03:04 PM #15Associate Member
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Why would you ever do this to yourself without researching it first.
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07-19-2015, 03:04 PM #16MONITOR
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07-20-2015, 02:32 AM #18New Member
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Thanks guys il check it out, but no one has actually said what was wrong? I'm guessing the 3 month course was fine but you think it was bad for me to Carry on with sust and tren ? Once again I have had 0 side effects!
I've started my ptc so Il drop a message on here in a month
And I got advice and did research its just not a big deal to me roids are nothing
And I'm 23 5ft 8 82kg lean
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07-20-2015, 02:41 AM #19
If you actually read the links above you will find out whats wrong, or you want to be spoon fed the information???
"...to me roids are nothing" lol, sure hope that remains like that, bets are you will need'em the rest of your life just to feel normal.
82kgs doing tren, again lol... So you started tren with 70kgs?? You could have had the same results with testosterone only cycle.
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In bold, yes you do... You just don't have gyno or something really noticeable w/out BW... BW tells the story of what we can't see/nor feel sometimes... All bets are if you've not run an AI or HCG or a DA your BW will be off!
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07-20-2015, 07:06 AM #21
What PCT have you started baring in mind your last shot of sust was less than a week ago?
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