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    Hammerthor is offline New Member
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    First Cycle? Test E/Test P together

    Hey guys,
    Brand new to this forum and I registered just to get some more insight on AS. Im thinking about starting my first cycle and I need some help on choosing compounds and doses. Im 6'3 at 185lbs very lean (7% with caliper but more around 8%) and train around 4-5 Times a week with a solid diet to not gain too much fat (3500kcal): i know this will have to increase on a cycle. My goals are to gain a solid amount of lean mass (10-15lbs lean muscle) and keep as much as possible after I dont want to get too massive And gain too much fat, all I want are some good size gains on back, chest and arms and to stay under 10% bf if possible (lazar angelov fitness model type body would be ideal). Right now my wish would be to only cycle this one time so i would like to get the most out of it. Everybody who I know that juices tells me i would explode on AS, so now im ready to try it out myself. The recomendation I got by a friend was:

    Test E 250mg/week
    Test Prop 80mg/EOD

    PCT to be determined

    I understand the difference between both but now id like to ask what you guys think what I should take to reach my goals. Cheers

    Also Im kinda scared of sides hence the relatively low doses. Please no hate im really new to this!

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    Mr.BB is offline Anabolic Member
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    At 20 years old you are at your lifes peak of your own natural testosterone production, taking steroids will halt and completely shut down this natural production, and then you have 70% more chances of not recovering completely your testosterone once the natural production restarts.
    It is dumb not to wait till your hpta mature IMO.

    Read this:

    The young and Steroids

    ***Cycles going wrong for the young***

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    TheTaxMan is offline 100% BRITISH BEEF
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    Sounds like a good cycle to me, id start te test enth 2 weeks before the prop so its releasing at the same time

    But as said above, your too young really, id wait until you were atleast 22

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    wait till age 24-25 when your finished development, drop the prop, run test at 400-500mg ew for 12-14 weeks with an AI (maybe dex at 0.25mg eod) and PCT 2-3 weeks after last pin, pct of 4-5 weeks of clomid 50mg ed and tamox 20mg ed.
    dont start before age 24 IMO....

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