Var 10 question?

**card095** · 07-30-2015, 10:49 PM

How many milligrams of testosterone does a single pill of Var 10 have?

I have the var product which is on the banner for this website.

**< <Samson> >** · 07-30-2015, 10:50 PM

None

**card095** · 07-30-2015, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

None

What substance is in the var 10 pill than?

**jstone** · 07-31-2015, 12:03 AM

They are supplements there is zero testosterone , or anavar in it. It should say whats in it on the label.

**PrettyPlease?** · 07-31-2015, 12:08 AM

VAR 10
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per container: 90

Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxine HCI)
Magnesium (as Magnesium Oxide
Zinc (as Zinc Aspartate)
Oxantrione Proprietary Blend - 66.6 mg
CLA (Conjugate Linoleic Acid)
Winged Treebine Leaf Extract
Methoxy Isoflavone
Other Ingredients
Gelatin Capsule
Rice Flour
Magnesium Stearate
Soy

Nope.... Don't see any testosterone .

**card095** · 07-31-2015, 12:14 AM

Alright than. My question is how many pounds of muscle can be gained a month with Var 10?

**krugerr** · 07-31-2015, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by card095

Alright than. My question is how many pounds of muscle can be gained a month with Var 10?

It's a herbal remedy. Not even close to a steroid .

To answer your question, that depends I training and diet. But you're doing it natural. So asking how much Var10 will help... Probably absolutely zero!

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**numbere** · 07-31-2015, 08:14 AM

You're 21 years old and should not even consider using steroids until you ate in your middle to late 20s.

During this time in your body the brain and body are still developing. Using AAS now will likely permanently damage your body for the rest of your life.

Please do yourself a huge favor and read a few of the threads attached below. The recent threads are still active. This is not a game, making the wrong decision can destroy the rest of your life.

***Cycles going wrong for the young***

**2die4** · 07-31-2015, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by krugerr

It's a herbal remedy. Not even close to a steroid .

To answer your question, that depends I training and diet. But you're doing it natural. So asking how much Var10 will help... Probably absolutely zero!

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I think it's a good product, I've used it and so has my GF and it's not like we're idiots or anything. I mean if it's not a steroid that's fine, protein powder, BCAA's and pre workout aren't steroids but I take those and I'm sure a lot of people here do as well because they help. That's what matters, if it's helping you or not and the products help.

**card095** · 07-31-2015, 12:57 PM

So have there even been any studies done on anabolic steroids to see whether it damages late-teen and early20 's endocrine system? I have seen the post from one of the vertran's posters here saying how anabolic steroids are harmful to the youth.

anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/367187-aas-things-consider-before-starting-first-cycle.html

**PrettyPlease?** · 07-31-2015, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by card095

So have there even been any studies done on anabolic steroids to see whether it damages late-teen and early20 's endocrine system? I have seen the post from one of the vertran's posters here saying how anabolic steroids are harmful to the youth.

anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/367187-aas-things-consider-before-starting-first-cycle.html

Don't you think that might be a little unethical to conduct a research study to see if something damages a healthy young adult?

There is plenty of evidence on the forum of the effects of cycling too young.

No one has to conduct a research study to see if going without water will "actually" kill you to know that it will.

**card095** · 07-31-2015, 01:02 PM

How exactly did you guys know it was their youth which was the demise of their health problems?

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 07-31-2015, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by card095

How exactly did you guys know it was their youth which was the demise of their health problems?

Here is the simplified version of it.
Your body's HPTA is still developing at your age.
If you take AAS then your body will shut down your HPTA.
Your HPTA cannot develop while it is shutdown.
After your cycle you may recover BUT your HPTA missed months of its developmental time.
Thus, your HPTA may never reach its full potential.

**card095** · 07-31-2015, 03:01 PM

Correlation doesn't imply causation for the demise of those people who took the pills for being too young. Please provide studies to support your claim for the 25 age rule. The only agreeable statement I have yet relating to steroids and age is that it may fuse your growth plates if taken too early. Conversly, I'm using the Var 10 which is known to increase growth on children.

**PrettyPlease?** · 07-31-2015, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by card095

Correlation doesn't imply causation for the demise of those people who took the pills for being too young. Please provide studies to support your claim for the 25 age rule. The only agreeable statement I have yet relating to steroids and age is that it may fuse your growth plates if taken too early. Conversly, I'm using the Var 10 which is known to increase growth on children.

Yes correlation does not necessarily imply causation. However, most scientific evidence is based up on a correlation of variables. Some people like yourself commit the opposite fallacy of dismissing correlation entirely, as if it does not suggest causation at all. Since it may be difficult or ethically impossible to run controlled double-blind studies as I already pointed out, correlational evidence from several different angles is the strongest causal evidence available.

The combination of limited available methodologies with the dismissing correlation fallacy has on occasion been used to counter a scientific finding. For example, the tobacco industry has historically relied on a dismissal of correlational evidence to reject a link between tobacco and lung cancer.

Correlation is a valuable type of scientific evidence in fields such as medicine, psychology, and sociology.

Also Mr Smarty Pants, Causality can be predicted by an extrapolation of trends with the use of regression analysis, but I am sure you knew that already

**jstone** · 07-31-2015, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by card095

Correlation doesn't imply causation for the demise of those people who took the pills for being too young. Please provide studies to support your claim for the 25 age rule. The only agreeable statement I have yet relating to steroids and age is that it may fuse your growth plates if taken too early. Conversly, I'm using the Var 10 which is known to increase growth on children.

Anavar may be known to increase growth in children, but var 10 isnt the same thing. Listen to pretty please and all the other members. What they are saying doesnt need to be studied, not everything can be studied. Pretty please does a real good job of explaining it. This forum is riddled with threads from guys who thought they knew it all like you. Ask any of them who have posted there cautionary stories, if they could go back would they do it again. There is a thread about a 20 year old guy that has ed, because he cycled to early. I hope he fully recovers. Your young can you imagine your 20s with erectile dysfunction.

**card095** · 07-31-2015, 03:42 PM

Is there any studies proving how the body is making adjustments to the endocrine system till the age of 25? I'm looking for studies showing how the endocrine system is not fully functional till the age of 25.

**card095** · 07-31-2015, 04:28 PM

I'm waiting on any research for this claim.

**PrettyPlease?** · 07-31-2015, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by card095

I'm waiting on any research for this claim.

Sorry I don't have the time right now to do everything for you. You will have to be patient. However, if in the mean time you are one of those guys who has to touch the stove to see that it is hot, well then by all means it is no skin off my nose. Some guys only learn the hard way.

**jstone** · 07-31-2015, 05:00 PM

Your not going to get any. Some may be fully mature at 23, it will be different for everyone. At 25 you should be fully mature, and done growing. Its your body, you're only going to hurt yourself. So dont listen, at your age you know everything. As someone who had to start trt in his late 20s, and it wasnt due to cycling. You don't want to rely on exogenous testosterone the rest of your life. By the time im 40 I will have been on trt for almost 15 years. Most men dont need trt until around there 40s or later. There are many more consequences that are possible.

You have a wealth of experience here, members that have decades of experience, and knowledge. Go against it as you like, but realize there are consequences for your actions. If you use logic you will realize what everyone has told you is right. If I say rat poison will kill you. Your not going to believe it, because I dont have any studies that show it.

like deadlifting dog put it. Which he put it terms the most mentally challenged could even understand. When you shutdown part of your anatomy that is still developing, it stops developing. There doesn't need to be studies done, that is common sense. The funny thing is complete strangers care more about your health than you do. Your test levels are sky high take advantage of it, or use something you dont need at this point, and risk permanent damage. Its your choice, just remember viagra isnt cheap.

**card095** · 07-31-2015, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by PrettyPlease?

Sorry I don't have the time right now to do everything for you. You will have to be patient. However, if in the mean time you are one of those guys who has to touch the stove to see that it is hot, well then by all means it is no skin off my nose. Some guys only learn the hard way.

I went through google myself and I can't find anything if the endocrine system is not fully functional till the age of 25. Either I'm mislooking. It wouldn't hurt to give a helping hand pretty please.

**PrettyPlease?** · 07-31-2015, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by card095

I went through google myself and I can't find anything if the endocrine system is not fully functional till the age of 25. Either I'm mislooking. It wouldn't hurt to give a helping hand pretty please.

Everyone develops at different rates so you are not going to find a hard number that the endocrine system is fully developed.

jstone summarized some of my thoughts quite nicely. However, I will also say this.

Studies show the brain itself is not fully developed until the age of.....you guessed it, 25. Studies also show that exposure to testicular steroids such as testosterone before the brain is fully developed masculinizes the developing brain, leading to permanent changes in brain morphology and behavior.

One more reason NOT to use steroids until at least 25 (give or take).