How long till results? Testiviron and Deca

[mack91]

Hey guys
I just jumped on my cycle, on my third week (had 2 injections). Im doing testiviron (1mL) and deca (0.5mL). I haven't noticed any gains as of yet. How long till I see visible muscle gains?

[SidVicious77]

Right about now, provided your training and diet are on track

[TheTaxMan]

We talk in MG here as thats the strength.
ML is just an amount of oil.

What are your compounds dosed at?
Usualy testoviron is 250mg per ML
deca 200mg per ML


Your balls have shrunk already? After 2 weeks? Sounds like your in for a tough ride my friend

What are your stats?
Age
Height
Weight
Bodyfat
Training experience
Cycle experience

[Mr.BB]

Do you know the harm you are doing to yourself?

At 20 years old you are at your lifes peak of your own natural testosterone production, taking steroids will halt and completely shut down this natural production, and then you have 70% more chances of not recovering completely your testosterone once the natural production restarts.
It is dumb not to wait till your hpta mature IMO.

Read this:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...%2A%2A%2A.html

[mack91]

We talk in MG here as thats the strength.
ML is just an amount of oil.

What are your compounds dosed at?
Usualy testoviron is 250mg per ML
deca 200mg per ML




Your balls have shrunk already? After 2 weeks? Sounds like your in for a tough ride my friend

What are your stats?
Age
Height
Weight
Bodyfat
Training experience
Cycle experience

Not sure about the dosage, the bottles aren't with me
20 years old
20% bf
2 years consistent training
5"10 height
88kgs

[TheTaxMan]

If one is ready to start a cycle, then one should know what doseage they are taking off by heart, not having to check the bottle.

You can get all sorts of strengths of Test and Deca , example some Test is 500mg per ml, 300mg per ml and so on.

It sounds to me you dont even know how much your taking

1ml of Test and 0.5ml of deca
More than likely be 250mg test, 100mg deca which isnt alot at all.
You should know what and how much and what strength your taking per week off the top of your head.

What is your PCT protocol? What AI are you using?

It doesnt sound to me you have done much research, not to mention you shouldnt be cycling at such a young age

Have you read the links that MrBB posted? If so how do you feel about the information and the potential risks your taking?

[mack91]

If one is ready to start a cycle, then one should know what doseage they are taking off by heart, not having to check the bottle.

You can get all sorts of strengths of Test and Deca , example some Test is 500mg per ml, 300mg per ml and so on.

It sounds to me you dont even know how much your taking

1ml of Test and 0.5ml of deca
More than likely be 250mg test, 100mg deca which isnt alot at all.
You should know what and how much and what strength your taking per week off the top of your head.

What is your PCT protocol? What AI are you using?

It doesnt sound to me you have done much research, not to mention you shouldnt be cycling at such a young age

Have you read the links that MrBB posted? If so how do you feel about the information and the potential risks your taking?

Back to my question, how long till I see results?

[mack91]

Ps I just started, obviously I have to be on low dosage

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Ps I just started, obviously I have to be on low dosage

You obviously need to educate before you medicate.
You have no idea what you are doing.
You are way too young.

[TheTaxMan]

You will see results in time, but i doubt a lot, bare in mind most gains will be water.
but i think you will lose any results very quickly, you seem uneducated about AAS.

Dose is very low even for a beginner (dont go home and inject more by the way, that would be dumb)
You should have ran Test only if its your first cycle.

All you care about is "when will i see results" , your not bothered about any serious advice or what or how much gear your taking let alone the potential lethal consequences.

It leads me to believe your very impatient for gains hence cycling way too early, uneducated and too young.

I know you couldnt be arsed to answer (i more think its because you dont want to admint you havent a clue what an AI or PCT is)
But i do hope your running an AI, HCG and have your PCT plan in place.

Sorry if i sound harsh, but your asking for advice and not really providing much effort or help for yourself
(you dont even know how much gear your taking besides the amount in terms of ML ffs)
Its almost like asking a friend what hes drinking and he responds with "500ml of alochol" - what strength?!

You also have to understand, people are taking the time to give detailed responses to try and help you, but you seem like you cant be arsed to put in the same effort back.

I have nothing else to say. Good luck

[mack91]

I have three bottles, 1 sus 1 deca and 1 testiviron. Could you please provide a cycle that allows me to make the most out of these three bottles?

[Mr.BB]

I have three bottles, 1 sus 1 deca and 1 testiviron. Could you please provide a cycle that allows me to make the most out of these three bottles?

Your too young dude, no one here will help you mess up your health

[RigPig]

Mack, from just reading your above responses to the easy questions people have asked, I hope all you have is Grape Seed Oil in those vials.
We see guys like you come and go around here, if your not willing to research and listen to the constructive advice given, why should we even bother with you?
How about answering all the questions previously asked, reading the links people have posted and then come back with your questions.

[mack91]

Mate all I'm asking is for a cycle plan, I've already bought and started my cycle. What is done is done. I need to know how to make the most out of it, as I am already 2 weeks in.

[RigPig]

Mate all I'm asking is for a cycle plan, I've already bought and started my cycle. What is done is done. I need to know how to make the most out of it, as I am already 2 weeks in.

You should stop now before you do any real damage. If you choose to ignore this advice then you are on your own.
Your gear won't go bad. What's done is not done in this case
What's done is just getting started, Stop now before you wreck yourself.

[73rr]

Here is your cycle plan,

Stop your cycle
Figure out pct REALLY fast
Thenot get blood work to make sure I didn't f*** things up already.
Next step is very important. Stay on this forum.ask questions. Read read read everything and then when your really ready for aas u will be prepared for anything that can and will happen

[TheTaxMan]

I dont want to nag you like a mother but,

1. Stop
2. Run a low dose PCT
3. Eat
4. Train
5. Age

In terms of steroids , we will help you in another 4 years.
If you you would like help with your diet, nutrition and/or training please visit and post in those sections. These take priority over any steroids and certainly dictate the gains made wether on or off steroids, so getting them right is first and foremost!

[mack91]

I already checked my blood before the cycle. In terms of Pct, my supplier is sorting that out for me. All I need now is a cycle plan telling me how much to take of each.

[NACH3]

I already checked my blood before the cycle. In terms of Pct, my supplier is sorting that out for me. All I need now is a cycle plan telling me how much to take of each.

Please buddy - listen to everyone whose given you the advice to stop!! If you knew what you were doing you'd know to have your ancillaries b4 you start anything... But we here are not going to provide the bullet when you've already got the gun! Think about it!

Read the two links that BB has im the top of this thread - ongoing cases in which kids your age took the plunge and now have lifelong problems to fix through HRT and PDE-5 inhibitors!! At the very least

[here2grow]

I already checked my blood before the cycle. In terms of Pct, my supplier is sorting that out for me. All I need now is a cycle plan telling me how much to take of each.

No one will help you now. You're underage so Demand, Scream, Cry, Whinge all you like...

The best thing to now.. Learn and read what pct is and how to use it and buy a blow up doll cause that's all you will be able to satisfy if you stay on this path while on a young age!!!

LISTEN to the big guys above you think they are that big because they cycle 24/7 NO they learn and know what they are doing. They are giving you the best advice around and for free too. They don't get paid for this they are here to HELP. But its obvious you need more than help and won't listen.

[RigPig]

Not sure about the dosage, the bottles aren't with me 20 years old 20% bf 2 years consistent training 5"10 height 88kgs

Yesterday your stats were
Age -19
Height- 5'11"
Weight - 90kgs

So congrats on your birthday today, too bad as you got older you shrunk 1", and your gear and diet must be bunk cause you've lost 2kgs overnight.
Back to the drawing board kiddo.

[73rr]

Hey, I'm in that picture! Haha

[RigPig]

Hey, I'm in that picture! Haha

lol your sure are 73 haha

[here2grow]

Yesterday your stats were
Age -19
Height- 5'11"
Weight - 90kgs

So congrats on your birthday today, too bad as you got older you shrunk 1", and your gear and diet must be bunk cause you've lost 2kgs overnight.
Back to the drawing board kiddo.

hahah great work rigpig

happy birthday OP

[mack91]

UPDATE:
Hey guys,
Due to the lack of knowledge I had before about gear. A fellow member of the forum has advised me to jump on 600mg of Tren and 600mg of HGH. I know that this is a good cycle that can yield the best possible results. 2 days into my cycle I feel weird around the waist. But hopefully the pain will pay off.

Just one question guys, how long?

[SidVicious77]

My Lord. Are you serious? That's the worst cycle you could possibly be on. Why don't you take the great advice you've been given in this thread, back off, do a pct and use the next few years to educate yourself?

[RigPig]

Don't feed the Troll.

[NACH3]

Don't feed the Troll.

Yeah that was a nice catch RP LOL! And agreed - he's gotta be pullin our chains here... Now a first cycle of 600mgs of tren - you'll soon find out how real these sides are

Just for curiousity reasons... Where's your AI HCG and DA?? And, your pct protocol you should start as soon as you are able!

[mack91]

This is the good shit