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    First Cycle looking for opinions

    Hey was looking for some opinions on my cycle that I have planned. I am 5'7" and 185lbs approx 15%BF. I have been lifting for three years. I am 21 years old also.
    My cycle goes as follows;
    Test E 500mg week split 2Xweek -weeks 1-10
    Aromasin 12.5mg E3D -weeks 1-10 (will increase with sides)
    Anadrol 50mg ED -weeks 1-3
    For PCT I will be doing it 2 weeks after last pin.
    Nolva ED
    Weeks 1+2 40mg
    Weeks 3+4 20mg
    Clomid ED
    Week 1 100mg
    Week 2 75mg
    Week 3+4 50mg
    So just wondering what you guys think. Should I take anything else? What kind of things should I watch for? Anything you guys recommend I change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsplaine View Post
    Hey was looking for some opinions on my cycle that I have planned. I am 5'7" and 185lbs approx 15%BF. I have been lifting for three years. I am 21 years old also.
    My cycle goes as follows;
    Test E 500mg week split 2Xweek -weeks 1-10
    Aromasin 12.5mg E3D -weeks 1-10 (will increase with sides)
    Anadrol 50mg ED -weeks 1-3
    For PCT I will be doing it 2 weeks after last pin.
    Nolva ED
    Weeks 1+2 40mg
    Weeks 3+4 20mg
    Clomid ED
    Week 1 100mg
    Week 2 75mg
    Week 3+4 50mg
    So just wondering what you guys think. Should I take anything else? What kind of things should I watch for? Anything you guys recommend I change?
    Welcome to the forums, you've obviously been doing some reading, as thats a good cycle layout.

    Note though, you should drop the Anadrol, you dont need this. You're also too light and too young.
    Whats your diet like? And your training? Any pictures?

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    Thanks! I was only gonna throw the anadrol in there because I get the bottle for free. I was pretty skeptical throwing it in myself. I will post pictures tonight after work. My training is 5 days a week and every other week 6 days. I do chest, back, shoulders, legs and arms each on their own day. My diet high in protein and carbs and low on fats. I take in roughly 3000 cal a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsplaine View Post
    Thanks! I was only gonna throw the anadrol in there because I get the bottle for free. I was pretty skeptical throwing it in myself. I will post pictures tonight after work. My training is 5 days a week and every other week 6 days. I do chest, back, shoulders, legs and arms each on their own day. My diet high in protein and carbs and low on fats. I take in roughly 3000 cal a day.
    Okay, get specific with your diet for us. Use MyFitnessPal to throw it together
    The Anadrol free supps from the sponsor? Is the Test also the tablets from sponsor?

    You're still too young to be playing with these hormones. However we can address other aspects of your gym life that will make drastic changes!

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    No its all from mission in Canada. Test is oil and anadrol is tabs.
    Breakfast is 1/2 cup of oats with brown sugar for flavor. 3/4 cup of egg white with one full egg. I eat this every day.
    9am snack is usually just another 1/2 cup of oats
    Lunch is 200-250 grams of chicken breast with 1 cup of white rice.
    3pm snack Is protein shake (25 grams protein) post workout
    Dinner is whatever my girlfriend makes which is usually chicken breast or ground beef incorporated dish with high carbs
    Then evening I snack on peanut butter sandwiches.
    I try to drink at least 1 gallon of water a day.

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    Cycle layout looks good

    I agree with krugerr, drop the Anadrol , even if ou have it there and got it for free, just keep it for a future cycle.

    I think your PCT doesnt need to be as aggressive in the middle, a popular PCT for a test only cycle is

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/20/20/20

    You are far too young to be cycling though, you should wait until your 25 until your endocrine/hpta has matured.

    You stand a bigger chance of being permantley shut down and end up on TRT for the rest of your life if cycling at 21

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    At 21 years old you are at your lifes peak of your own natural testosterone production, taking steroids will halt and completely shut down this natural production, and then you have 70% more chances of not recovering completely your testosterone once the natural production restarts.
    It is dumb not to wait till your hpta mature IMO.

    Read this:

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...%2A%2A%2A.html
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    Why should I go lighter on the PCT? Would it not be better to go harder to recover better. Guys I appreciate you all giving me warnings but it's already paid for and won't last another 4 years lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsplaine View Post
    Why should I go lighter on the PCT? Would it not be better to go harder to recover better. Guys I appreciate you all giving me warnings but it's already paid for and won't last another 4 years lol
    It will last. Test is good for years past expiration date if stored properly. And even if not, is saving a little money worth the risk of long term damage?
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    It will last just store it correctly.

    If you do insist, take test only and do the PCT i said

    I would not advise you cycle though, your test levels are high enough and the risks for out weigh the reward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsplaine View Post
    Why should I go lighter on the PCT? Would it not be better to go harder to recover better. Guys I appreciate you all giving me warnings but it's already paid for and won't last another 4 years lol
    You're willing to risk your entire hormonal system, for a few $. The gear will keep.
    If this is your attitude now, you need to seriously mature before you consider playing with drugs.

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    I hate to sound cocky but I read alot of those forums in the link of the horror stories and it seems most of those people messed up at some point. Eg doing too much or not having proper AI or PCT afterwards. I been talking with my doctor and he said I'm good to go. We are doing blood test and he will be monitoring me while I do this.
    I understand there is adverse effects that could happen of I choose to continue with this cycle. As for the horror stories, their is always those kind of stories with anything you do. The amount of successful logs I have read online out numbers the amount of tragic stories. What I really want to see is the chances of something messing up my endocrine system if it does.
    I don't want to sound rude or cocky. I just want more information on why I shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsplaine View Post
    I hate to sound cocky but I read alot of those forums in the link of the horror stories and it seems most of those people messed up at some point. Eg doing too much or not having proper AI or PCT afterwards. I been talking with my doctor and he said I'm good to go. We are doing blood test and he will be monitoring me while I do this.
    I understand there is adverse effects that could happen of I choose to continue with this cycle. As for the horror stories, their is always those kind of stories with anything you do. The amount of successful logs I have read online out numbers the amount of tragic stories. What I really want to see is the chances of something messing up my endocrine system if it does.
    I don't want to sound rude or cocky. I just want more information on why I shouldn't.
    Your doctor has condoned this? You need to seriously reconsider using him.

    Everytime you cycle, even after PCT your system never recovers to the level it was initially. In males over the age of 25, their endocrine system has fully matured, and peaked, so any recovery is more likely to be effective. Your endocrine system is still years away from this, by cycling now, you may recover, but it'll be at the cost of severely dampening your current production, and could stop your endocrine system maturing fully, if at all.

    My 2 cents.

    You're right, the horror stories are usually kids that did it wrong. You're here early and at least know what a cycle should consist of.
    I strongly suggest you postpone this cycle. You could end up very miserable for a number of years whilst you seek TRT to correct the damage you do. All because you wanted to shortcut a couple of years.

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    Okay. So I'm going to give it a shot and be as cautious as possible. What should I do with the anadrol ? It seems to strong for me to take anytime soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsplaine
    Okay. So I'm going to give it a shot and be as cautious as possible. What should I do with the anadrol? It seems to strong for me to take anytime soon
    Let's bet,that you'll come here after PCT, looking for help,cuz you have low libido,erectile dysfunction,feeling lethargic etc?!!Wanna bet?

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    I hope your doctor will help you after pct and give you viagra or cialis if needed considering hes said your good to go to use steroids . He could be to blame if you fvck up right?

    Id never thought a doctor would say that, are you telling porky pies?
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    You have received advice from some of the best in this forum. They have been open and honest.... Please take their advice and wait. Your system is growing and maturing, you are about to stop all of that and hope that you can return to normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsplaine View Post
    I been talking with my doctor and he said I'm good to go. We are doing blood test and he will be monitoring me while I do this.

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    If your doctors monitoring you then you obviously must have current blood work you can post up. Post it up so we can review it. You should know your baselines to see how you recover post cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsplaine View Post
    Okay. So I'm going to give it a shot and be as cautious as possible. What should I do with the anadrol? It seems to strong for me to take anytime soon
    I still advise against it, but if you're set in doing it don't touch the Adrol.

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