My second cycle

[devil-1986]

Hi friends ^ im looking for my second cycle advise and looking for best plan , my first cycle was include :
only 6 week test p 100 mg/1ml and my pct was nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 75/50/50/50
i currently bought 20 ampule of test cyp 250mg/1ml , my plan is to run 8-10 week of test cyp and my question is its good enough to run one more test only cycle under my belt ? or should add one more compound like masteron ?
about hcg and pct and AI: runing hcg 250 iu two times per week and pct maybe look like this nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 75/75/50/50 ,i choose aromasin as my AI in two dose of 12.5 mg ed (25 mg daily total) one in morning with my omega 3 and one dose 10 hour later with my omega 3 any help i Appreciate

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I wouldn't really call 6 weeks on test p a cycle but ok. Why did you run it so short?

If I ever run a long ester test like cyp or enth i'll run it at the very least of 12-14 weeks. If you only run a 8 week cycle of cyp you're going to come off right when you start to peak? Just my opinion.

[CrossOps]

If you only run a 8 week cycle of cyp you're going to come off right when you start to peak? Just my opinion.

Actually what you said is a patentable fact. Literally.

[devil-1986]

I wouldn't really call 6 weeks on test p a cycle but ok. Why did you run it so short?

If I ever run a long ester test like cyp or enth i'll run it at the very least of 12-14 weeks. If you only run a 8 week cycle of cyp you're going to come off right when you start to peak? Just my opinion.

because my gains stopped between week #5 and 6 and i didnt realy get more size and i did stop it after the sixth week, ok ill run it at 10-12 week ,i didnt get my answer , run another test only cycle ? or in my mind add somthing without or less sides like masteron would be ok ?

[Bio-Active]

because my gains stopped between week #5 and 6 and i didnt realy get more size and i did stop it after the sixth week, ok ill run it at 10-12 week ,i didnt get my answer , run another test only cycle ? or in my mind add somthing without or less sides like masteron would be ok ?

for your 2nd cycle test only would be my recondition along with your hcg and ai. Your pct looks fine as well

[ghettoboyd]

I would just do another test cycle...if that worked well for you then why complicate things save other compounds for down the road.... I'd keep it simple again and see how you fair...

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

because my gains stopped between week #5 and 6 and i didnt realy get more size and i did stop it after the sixth week, ok ill run it at 10-12 week ,i didnt get my answer , run another test only cycle ? or in my mind add somthing without or less sides like masteron would be ok ?

Fair enough, what do you mean your gains stopped at the 5th week?

Sounds like your gear is either bunk or you're not eating correctly to put on more size or whatever you are trying to do. I would look at those 2 factors before just stopping your cycle cold turkey.

More then likely when you hit a plataue like that you need to change something up. Either raise your calories, change your workout program, lower your calories, but never just stop your cycle.

[Marsoc]

because my gains stopped between week #5 and 6 and i didnt realy get more size and i did stop it after the sixth week, ok ill run it at 10-12 week ,i didnt get my answer , run another test only cycle ? or in my mind add somthing without or less sides like masteron would be ok ?

I never cycled before. But I think it sounds funny as shit when I hear people saying shit like "I stopped noticing my gains so I stopped". I mean do u notice gains That fast actually like measurable gains. I mean I feel I see actual bmi changes naturally in a matter of month or two.maybe even a few weeks. But does that mean you should stop because you stop seeing measurable results. Or should you change to your training sessions since the cycle is boosting you. Therefor making the time that you need to change things come sooner so u don't platue to keep the body shocked

[Bio-Active]

Also keep in mind that you have to continue to adjust your food intake and training or your gains will stop as well

[Marsoc]

Fair enough, what do you mean your gains stopped at the 5th week?

Sounds like your gear is either bunk or you're not eating correctly to put on more size or whatever you are trying to do. I would look at those 2 factors before just stopping your cycle cold turkey.

More then likely when you hit a plataue like that you need to change something up. Either raise your calories, change your workout program, lower your calories, but never just stop your cycle.

Right that's what I meant I guess

[TestoSuper]

What were the Test Prop weekly dosage you incjected? and what were your gains from first cycle?
Anyway, in my opinion a Test Cyp only cycle can be fine..
500 mg/week (2 x 250 mg) for 10/12 week will be ok.. I suggest you arimidex instead aromasin..
Don't forget Hcg during cycle and a solid PCT after.

[Bio-Active]

What were the Test Prop weekly dosage you incjected? and what were your gains from first cycle? Anyway, in my opinion a Test Cyp only cycle can be fine.. 500 mg/week (2 x 250 mg) for 10/12 week will be ok.. I suggest you arimidex instead aromasin.. Don't forget Hcg during cycle and a solid PCT after.

why do you suggest aromasin instead of dex? I have used both and really it's preference. Either will work fine as long as it's dosed correctly

[TestoSuper]

why do you suggest aromasin instead of dex? I have used both and really it's preference. Either will work fine as long as it's dosed correctly

it's the opposite, I suggest adex instead aromasin .. I personally have used adex ever, but according to many users witnessess adex is more powerful and effective than aromasin ..is it not so?

[Bio-Active]

it's the opposite, I suggest adex instead aromasin .. I personally have used adex ever, but according to many users witnessess adex is more powerful and effective than aromasin ..is it not so?

it just depends Adex can have a rebound were aromasin is a suicide inhibitor. I have used both and dosed correctly either will do the job. Dex is cheaper and eod dosing were Asin should be run daily

[TestoSuper]

it just depends Adex can have a rebound were aromasin is a suicide inhibitor. I have used both and dosed correctly either will do the job. Dex is cheaper and eod dosing were Asin should be run daily

ok.. maybe in the future I will try aromasin also, for this year I've got adex yet..
in your opinion, in a Test E / Dbol cycle, 0.5 mg adex 2 x week is sufficient or is 0.5 mg EOD necessary?
in my last bloodwork my E2 value was very low (E2 < 5), over 8 months after cycle end (in which I used adex)!!

[Bio-Active]

ok.. maybe in the future I will try aromasin also, for this year I've got adex yet.. in your opinion, in a Test E / Dbol cycle, 0.5 mg adex 2 x week is sufficient or is 0.5 mg EOD necessary? in my last bloodwork my E2 value was very low (E2 < 5), over 8 months after cycle end (in which I used adex)!!

if your test dose is 500mg ew then I would run your dex at .25 mg eod and adjust if needed from there

[TestoSuper]

I think 750 mg /week this time (is my 5 cycle) and 40 mg Dbol..

[TestoSuper]

if your test dose is 500mg ew then I would run your dex at .25 mg eod and adjust if needed from there

I think 750 mg /week this time (is my 5 cycle) and 40 mg Dbol..
anyway.. i will start at 0.25 eod and adjust if need..

[Bio-Active]

I think 750 mg /week this time (is my 5 cycle) and 40 mg Dbol.. anyway.. i will start at 0.25 eod and adjust if need..

when I run that test dose I run .5 mg mon we'd and fri and it keeps my e in range. All I can do is recommend a starting point and then running labs after would be the only way to be sure

[TestoSuper]

when I run that test dose I run .5 mg mon we'd and fri and it keeps my e in range. All I can do is recommend a starting point and then running labs after would be the only way to be sure

ok, so I will start at 0.5 mg 3 x week also..
thanks for your advice..

[NACH3]

I think 750 mg /week this time (is my 5 cycle) and 40 mg Dbol..
anyway.. i will start at 0.25 eod and adjust if need..

Bio beat me to it... If I run test @ 750mgs/wk I need .5mgs of dex as well
And that's not counting the d-Bol which will most likely need a sm bump while running your d-Bol but labs will be your best bet after running your oral and adjusting your AI dose as needed!

[NACH3]

because my gains stopped between week #5 and 6 and i didnt realy get more size and i did stop it after the sixth week, ok ill run it at 10-12 week ,i didnt get my answer , run another test only cycle ? or in my mind add somthing without or less sides like masteron would be ok ?

If your not gaining after 6wks or time gains slow its most likely your diet and not making changes when your gaining new weight and with that comes more calories to sustain new muscle tissue... was this with propionate or cyp??

If your going with cyp I agree w/JBlazzze and run it at least 12 wks - if your bf% is at or lower than 10% masteron will surely shine to drop that BF down further -

Ever try back loading an oral like winny for 4-6wks?? Winny has always served me very well and gives you a great strength boost as well as that hard look to finish off your cycle...

[TestoSuper]

Bio beat me to it... If I run test @ 750mgs/wk I need .5mgs of dex as well
And that's not counting the d-Bol which will most likely need a sm bump while running your d-Bol but labs will be your best bet after running your oral and adjusting your AI dose as needed!

ok, though I think I need a minimum of 0.5 mg x 3 / week (or EOD) in this cycle.. not less..
In case I start with 0.5 mg 3 x week and adjusting during cycle if necessary..

[numbere]

OP with all do respect your first cycle was a total wreck.

Your test was under dosed and you didn't use an AI.

Imo run another test only cycle and find out how to keep your E2 within range by adjusting you AI dose based on bw.

You have at least another 10 weeks before you should consider cycling again so there's no rush.

[devil-1986]

it just depends Adex can have a rebound were aromasin is a suicide inhibitor. I have used both and dosed correctly either will do the job. Dex is cheaper and eod dosing were Asin should be run daily

and with aromasin estrogen level could be almost in range and not negative effect on cholesterol but dex and letro have it .

[devil-1986]

If your not gaining after 6wks or time gains slow its most likely your diet and not making changes when your gaining new weight and with that comes more calories to sustain new muscle tissue... was this with propionate or cyp??

If your going with cyp I agree w/JBlazzze and run it at least 12 wks - if your bf% is at or lower than 10% masteron will surely shine to drop that BF down further -

Ever try back loading an oral like winny for 4-6wks?? Winny has always served me very well and gives you a great strength boost as well as that hard look to finish off your cycle...

yeah i didnt change my diet when i gaining new weight and thats should be my mistake on that cycle because when u are going to big u must take much more calories than before ,ok i will do it 12 week another test cyp only cycle , but my question is my current bf% is between 12-13 % is it ok enough for adding masteron in such a cycle ? is it do anything to me to drop that bf down ? i dont and never near and touching orals because their will destroying my liver

[NACH3]

yeah i didnt change my diet when i gaining new weight and thats should be my mistake on that cycle because when u are going to big u must take much more calories than before ,ok i will do it 12 week another test cyp only cycle , but my question is my current bf% is between 12-13 % is it ok enough for adding masteron in such a cycle ? is it do anything to me to drop that bf down ? i dont and never near and touching orals because their will destroying my liver

Since you have time to prime your body for growth - get your BF down to 10% or less then add in the mast...

At your BF I wouldn't go that route with mast - it really shines when one is already in single digits...

Just lower your BF prior to cycle as numbere stated you pretty much just came off - you have plenty of time to ready your body for growth

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...e-cycling.html

^^ probly he most under used technique in BBing

[devil-1986]

Since you have time to prime your body for growth - get your BF down to 10% or less then add in the mast...

At your BF I wouldn't go that route with mast - it really shines when one is already in single digits...

Just lower your BF prior to cycle as numbere stated you pretty much just came off - you have plenty of time to ready your body for growth

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...e-cycling.html

^^ probly he most under used technique in BBing

ok what about Nandrolone Decanoate ? i have 250 mg/1ml in 10ml/bottle , my goal is to gain much more muscle and for this goal is it good to add Nandrolone ? if yes what dosage and duration would u recommend me ? thank u