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    First cycle running NPP. . Critique

    Age: 33

    Weight 187 lbs

    Height 5'9

    Bf: 15%


    1-12 test e 500mg ew

    1-10 NPP 300mg/week- e3d (M,W,F)

    1-14 hcg 250iu 2x ew

    1-14 aromisin 12.5 eod

    Pct:


    15-20 nolva 40/20/20/20/10


    15-20 clomid 75/50/50/25
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    There are a few things I'd change.

    How long have you been training?

    What is your previous cycling experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    There are a few things I'd change.

    How long have you been training?

    What is your previous cycling experience?
    I've been training for a good 8 years on and off. I've been pretty consistent these last couple years. I've have done about 8-10 cycles.

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    i would also have had cabergoline on hand, most likely used it also

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    Right now you're taking less than 300mg/week of NPP.

    Personally I'd increase the NPP to at least 350-400mg/week.

    As little as 100mg of NPP will shut you down immediately and last in your system for about 14 days.

    Due to this you should use 250IU of hcg from day one until 2-3 days before starting PCT.

    That aromasin dose seems very low for the proposed amount of aromatizing compounds.

    Have you ever had your estradiol tested mid cycle while on that dose of aromasin?

    As stated above by Silabolin, it would be a good idea to at least have caber on hand incase prolactin issues arise.

    PCT for test e is usually 14 days after last pin.

    That would benefit from adding another week of nolva to PCT, making 6 weeks of nolva in total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Right now you're taking less than 300mg/week of NPP.

    Personally I'd increase the NPP to at least 350-400mg/week.

    As little as 100mg of NPP will shut you down immediately and last in your system for about 14 days.

    Due to this you should use 250IU of hcg from day one until 2-3 days before starting PCT.

    That aromasin dose seems very low for the proposed amount of aromatizing compounds.

    Have you ever had your estradiol tested mid cycle while on that dose of aromasin?

    As stated above by Silabolin, it would be a good idea to at least have caber on hand incase prolactin issues arise.

    PCT for test e is usually 14 days after last pin.

    That would benefit from adding another week of nolva to PCT, making 6 weeks of nolva in total.
    My mistake on the NPP...I will be running it at 300mg a week. I have (NPP 150)

    Definitely starting HCG from the get go

    Never taken caber. How much should I have on hand?

    The aromasin I have is 25mg. Last cycle I cut it in half .

    Mid cycle bloods on this POST

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNSource View Post
    My mistake on the NPP...I will be running it at 300mg a week. I have (NPP 150)

    Definitely starting HCG from the get go

    Never taken caber. How much should I have on hand?

    The aromasin I have is 25mg. Last cycle I cut it in half .

    Mid cycle bloods on this POST
    To control prolactin 0.25mg/twice a week of caber.

    You don't necessarily have to use caber from the start.

    In most cases if you keep e2 in range with an AI and blood work then a DA will not be needed.

    You can take caber from the start or wait until mid cycle labs.

    I don't know what this means, "Mid cycle bloods on this Post."

    Have you ever had your estradiol tested mid cycle while on that dose of aromasin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    To control prolactin 0.25mg/twice a week of caber.

    You don't necessarily have to use caber from the start.

    In most cases if you keep e2 in range with an AI and blood work then a DA will not be needed.

    You can take caber from the start or wait until mid cycle labs.

    I don't know what this means, "Mid cycle bloods on this Post."

    Have you ever had your estradiol tested mid cycle while on that dose of aromasin?
    Those were my mid cycle blood work results on that post... Not sure if the estradiol results were in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNSource View Post
    Those were my mid cycle blood work results on that post... Not sure if the estradiol results were in there.
    Oh my bad there was a hyperlink in that post.

    I had a senior moment there lol.

    This cycle is very different from your last.

    The only aromatizing compound in your last cycle was 350mg/week of test.

    You should increase you aromasin dose to 12.5-25mg/d and take it with dietary fats.

    It's been a year since your last cycle.

    Your body weight dropped and body fat percentage increased.

    Is everything alright?

    Do you need any help with your diet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Oh my bad there was a hyperlink in that post.

    I had a senior moment there lol.

    This cycle is very different from your last.

    The only aromatizing compound in your last cycle was 350mg/week of test.

    You should increase you aromasin dose to 12.5-25mg/d and take it with dietary fats.

    It's been a year since your last cycle.

    Your body weight dropped and body fat percentage increased.

    Is everything alright?

    Do you need any help with your diet?
    Traveling and the holidays killed me. I really could use some help on the diet. I got a hold of some caber so I'm going to throw that instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNSource View Post
    Traveling and the holidays killed me. I really could use some help on the diet. I got a hold of some caber so I'm going to throw that instead
    I hear you the holidays can be rough on the waistline.

    If you create a thread in the diet and nutrition forum members will help get you straightened out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    I hear you the holidays can be rough on the waistline.

    If you create a thread in the diet and nutrition forum members will help get you straightened out.
    Thanks for the help!

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