Thoughts on this Stack and Help

**classy1** · 01-26-2017, 10:00 AM

Want to make sure I am doing this the right way although i think i might get lots of different opinions. This is what someone i know said to purchase. I am in ok shape at 43 besides my GUT which i am working on and trying to eat healthy as much as possible-been working out about a year and do weight training about 2-3 day a week and cardio 2-3 days a week.
I want to get big- Not body builder big but muscle tone-energy, etc.
My first cycle i used Testosterone cypionate twice a week for 10 weeks as it was my firs go at it. Def gained some muscle mass. So its been a month+ and ready to start me next cycle..
I eat ok during week-lot of protein and weekends i will cheat sometimes so want to make sure i am taking these in the correct order and what days and how much...so looking for opinion or facts . I work odd hours so usually do a shot in the morning.
looking for someone experienced with these products below and give me some ideas on what to take when and how much. My initial thought is 1 cc a day on monday, 1 cc on Wed and 1 cc on Friday. Should i start at a 1/2 cc 1st week? talk to me and thanks in advance for guidance.

Purchased
TRENBOLONE FORTE 200mg 10 ml
Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg 10ml
SUSTANON 250mg 10ml

**numbere** · 01-26-2017, 11:47 AM

What are your stats?

If you finished PCT from your last cycle one month ago it's too soon for another cycle.

You need to wait at least 6-8 weeks after PCT so the SERMs will clear your system and not effect blood work.

Then you need a full hormone panel that includes lh and fsh in order to see if your HTPA was reset.

**Nephets** · 01-26-2017, 11:49 AM

this is a duplicate post numbere. Different title but the question is the same.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...tions-answers/

**numbere** · 01-26-2017, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Nephets

this is a duplicate post numbere. Different title but the question is the same.

Thanks for the heads up.

I read OP's thread history before responding and read that he was advised to post in the Q&A.

Thought I'd give my two cents on his situation.

**Nephets** · 01-26-2017, 12:07 PM

got ya.

**songdog** · 01-26-2017, 12:11 PM

And if you got a gut that would mean your bf is too high to be cycling.This could have you running into problems with your E2.Plus Tren isnt for beginners you wouldn't need or want it at this time.Forget everything your trainer has told you.

**ghettoboyd** · 01-26-2017, 02:42 PM

he only has one vial of each so no enough to do anything with imo...did you even do pct op?...

**classy1** · 01-29-2017, 09:32 AM

So`let me clarify a few things and forget about my trainer. He is fired!!!! I am in decent shape and had ONE 10 week cycle 2 days a week as i explained above and def saw a big change in my body size and tone. Just looking to gain some more tone and muscle mass....what i have in my possession is in the above post. I have not done any of these PCT, E2, harmone panels, AI, HLG and to be honest no idea what they are. I did actually do blood tests for my physical this month and i bet there are tons of things on there like you are asking as they took like 8 vials of blood and tested for everything.....
So basically looking for some positive guidance.. I dont plan on doing this for long term. Just trying out and see how it works on my body a little longer and a good plan on how much and when to take these.
thanks

**Mr.BB** · 01-29-2017, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by classy1

So`let me clarify a few things and forget about my trainer. He is fired!!!! I am in decent shape and had ONE 10 week cycle 2 days a week as i explained above and def saw a big change in my body size and tone. Just looking to gain some more tone and muscle mass....what i have in my possession is in the above post. I have not done any of these PCT, E2, harmone panels, AI, HLG and to be honest no idea what they are. I did actually do blood tests for my physical this month and i bet there are tons of things on there like you are asking as they took like 8 vials of blood and tested for everything.....
So basically looking for some positive guidance.. I dont plan on doing this for long term. Just trying out and see how it works on my body a little longer and a good plan on how much and when to take these.
thanks

Do you want to hear hard truths from steroid experienced people, or do you just want us to pat you on the back?

IF you actually done hormones bloodwork your testosterone is going to comeback low.

**songdog** · 01-29-2017, 10:00 AM

We are not trying to be rude just telling you the truth.A guy with a gut isn't in shape and at risk running aas.You stand a much greater risk of getting Gyno at high bf.And tren isn't for beginners you should have 7 or 8 cycles under your belt prior to running tren.Tren can really mess you up.But do wat you want it's your body bro and when your dick don't work and you are lacteing from your chest you will realise aas isn't a diet aid for the lazy.Be careful bro!

**classy1** · 01-29-2017, 02:39 PM

no pat on back.Just solid advice..i def have a testoserone test done recently....Testosterone 482...Free TEstosterone 19.
I was taking 20mg of Nolvedex-Tomaxifan the last week of cycle and 4-5 weeks thereafter. I did loose a little sexual drive but coming back...so stay away from the tren i understand.

**Mr.BB** · 01-29-2017, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by classy1

no pat on back.Just solid advice..i def have a testoserone test done recently....Testosterone 482...Free TEstosterone 19.
I was taking 20mg of Nolvedex-Tomaxifan the last week of cycle and 4-5 weeks thereafter. I did loose a little sexual drive but coming back...so stay away from the tren i understand.

Recently like during the cycle?

The best thing you can do is read and educate yourself because doing steroids have risks, and if you dont understand the dynamic of your hormonal system, you going to get different advice from different sources. If you know "how things work" you can understand advices better have less doubts about everything.

Start here: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

Then continue here: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

When you use exogenous testosterone (or any anabolic steroid ) your testicles stop producing testosterone, its called "shutdown". Testosterone can take a few weeks till total shutdown, nandrolone and trenbolone shut you down completely from 1st pin, they are very supressive. For a faster and better chance of restarting the bodys own testosterone we take certain drugs (SERMs like tamoxifen and clomiphene), they help the recovery and its called PCT (post cycle therapy ).

Nandrolone decanoate, usually called deca , also has a problem of being very slow compound to leave body and very supressive even in small amounts. Its not advised for novice use.

Taking steroids theres always a chance of no recovery, called ASIH (anabolic steroids induced hypogonadism), in which case you will hormonal replacement (TRT).

**boisebeast** · 01-29-2017, 06:45 PM

Not sure why you're pushing back against the advice to wait a little longer... time on cycle + PCT = time off is the general rule. Use that time to lower your bodyfat into a more desirable range. If you can't delay gratification for just a couple of months then you really don't have any business using AAS anyway

**Deal Me In** · 01-30-2017, 07:38 PM

Please, for the love of god, use mg as a reference, not ml. You need to learn to talk in mg's or you are looking for huge misunderstandings that can have very negative effects.

**Marsoc** · 01-30-2017, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by classy1

So`let me clarify a few things and forget about my trainer. He is fired!!!! I am in decent shape and had ONE 10 week cycle 2 days a week as i explained above and def saw a big change in my body size and tone. Just looking to gain some more tone and muscle mass....what i have in my possession is in the above post. I have not done any of these PCT, E2, harmone panels, AI, HLG and to be honest no idea what they are. I did actually do blood tests for my physical this month and i bet there are tons of things on there like you are asking as they took like 8 vials of blood and tested for everything.....
So basically looking for some positive guidance.. I dont plan on doing this for long term. Just trying out and see how it works on my body a little longer and a good plan on how much and when to take these.
thanks

You don't want to do this for long...but you want to wrecklessly us steroids with no AI or HCG or pct...looks like a recipe for permeanent damages to your system. Which will force you to do "this" for life