Allergic reaction? Help please!!!

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 02:33 AM

Hi been on test prop for 6 weeks and tren ace for two. When I started tren ace I switch from ip to anabolic solutions. I. Doing100mg test prop eod. And tren at 75mg eod. Problem I have is literally as soon as I inject it hurts and hurts for about 3 days I come up in lumps bruises and red patches? I will attach some pictures. Any help welcome please.

**MuscleScience** · 03-31-2017, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Wrecker92

Hi been on test prop for 6 weeks and tren ace for two. When I started tren ace I switch from ip to anabolic solutions. I. Doing100mg test prop eod. And tren at 75mg eod. Problem I have is literally as soon as I inject it hurts and hurts for about 3 days I come up in lumps bruises and red patches? I will attach some pictures. Any help welcome please.

Probably has to high a content of BA or BO. Which are additives to keep it sterile.

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Probably has to high a content of BA or BO. Which are additives to keep it sterile.

Meaning what exactly? Should I stop taking it and get another brand? Because the skin is red hit and firm and very painful

**DocToxin8** · 03-31-2017, 03:52 AM

Dude! You are injecting deep enough and get these reactions each time?
Yes I would stop using it.
It might just be an allergy type reaction,
or inflammation being the precise medical term here.
But this doesn't look normal.

Is it only local or do you feel hot and feverish a well?
(One is always hot on tren , but hot and clammy f.ex)

If you're really determined to keep using it then try 0,5ml and see how you react to that.

But with such lumps appearing each time I'd be afraid of an abscess coming eventually.

**DocToxin8** · 03-31-2017, 03:53 AM

Also, have you rotated sites, or kept jamming your thighs for 6 weeks?

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by DocToxin8

Also, have you rotated sites, or kept jamming your thighs for 6 weeks?

I always change sites each time from shoulders to glutes. Doesn't help they all hurt. I've just spoke to a friend and he said as I was ok on ip he thinks maybe I'm allergic to the oil base in the anabolic solutions as it can differ? Thanks for your help and tbh today I feel pretty rough and yesterday so guess it is making me feel like shit aswel.

**DocToxin8** · 03-31-2017, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by Wrecker92

I always change sites each time from shoulders to glutes. Doesn't help they all hurt. I've just spoke to a friend and he said as I was ok on ip he thinks maybe I'm allergic to the oil base in the anabolic solutions as it can differ? Thanks for your help and tbh today I feel pretty rough and yesterday so guess it is making me feel like shit aswel.

Yes it could be the oil as well,
but I believe that with HG gear, it's filtered well enough so that even if one were allergic to something in the oil one should tolerate it.
You might try getting syringe filters to filter this stuff.
But get more info from someone who's actually done that before you try,
as it needs to be the correct material for filtering oil.
(I think PVDF filters will do)

I'd change gear. If it's allergy then just smearing some oil on your skin should give redness too, in theory at least. And antihistamines should help.

I wouldn't chance on it being just allergy, and that in itself is perhaps reason enough to change. You are injecting this shit after all.

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by DocToxin8

Yes it could be the oil as well,
but I believe that with HG gear, it's filtered well enough so that even if one were allergic to something in the oil one should tolerate it.
You might try getting syringe filters to filter this stuff.
But get more info from someone who's actually done that before you try,
as it needs to be the correct material for filtering oil.
(I think PVDF filters will do)

I'd change gear. If it's allergy then just smearing some oil on your skin should give redness too, in theory at least. And antihistamines should help.

I wouldn't chance on it being just allergy, and that in itself is perhaps reason enough to change. You are injecting this shit after all.

Yeah think if swap gear see how that's goes if I get the same problem I will need to find an answer. I'll keep you updated. Thanks.

**Mr.BB** · 03-31-2017, 05:33 AM

Check if that oil has EO (ethyl oleate), some ppl are allergic to it.

Of course, contamination can give same effects. Either way lose that crap.

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Check if that oil has EO (ethyl oleate), some ppl are allergic to it.

Of course, contamination can give same effects. Either way lose that crap.

Yeah I tried just the test from them and that hasn't effected me and tried my mates tren ace and that's sweet. But how do I check the oil for eo? Thanks

**MuscleScience** · 03-31-2017, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Probably has to high a content of BA or BO. Which are additives to keep it sterile.

Sorry, those are additives that help dissolve the steroid crystals and keep them in solution as well as keep bacteria and viruses from contaminating the vial. As mentioned above, some are sensitive to BO.

**Mr.BB** · 03-31-2017, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Wrecker92

But how do I check the oil for eo? Thanks

Read the label or ask supplier.

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Read the label or ask supplier.

There is no label but went to see him today and he changed it for primus ray?

**DocToxin8** · 03-31-2017, 03:10 PM

If EO is used the oil is very thin.
I have no trouble with EO, and use some mast thats almost as thin as water.

**DocToxin8** · 03-31-2017, 03:10 PM

Is no label?!
Toss that shit.

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by DocToxin8

Is no label?!
Toss that shit.

I don't think anything I've ever got comes with a label ��

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 03:20 PM

This primus ray has a label but everything else is 10ml vials no labels just the box

**DocToxin8** · 03-31-2017, 03:36 PM

Huh. Well maybe it's different in the US.
Over here I've only ever seen one guy show me pics of a vial without label and he didn't know what he was doing. Thought the stuff came from a hospital.

**Mr.BB** · 03-31-2017, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by DocToxin8

Is no label?!
Toss that shit.

x2...

Find different supplier.

**songdog** · 03-31-2017, 04:09 PM

I seen a source with no labels I don't know why it's done.

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 04:32 PM

No this comes in boxes labelled from them just no paperwork inside. I know three people who sell it and they all have these products. As I said now using primus ray which does seem a lot more professional

**Wrecker92** · 03-31-2017, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by DocToxin8

Huh. Well maybe it's different in the US.
Over here I've only ever seen one guy show me pics of a vial without label and he didn't know what he was doing. Thought the stuff came from a hospital.

No this comes in boxes labelled from them just no paperwork inside. I know three people who sell it and they all have these products. As I said now using primus ray which does seem a lot more professional Imo

**Back In Black** · 04-01-2017, 01:19 AM

Tren on your first cycle? Way to go, ditch that junk buddy.

Mast too?

**redz** · 04-01-2017, 01:32 AM

I have never seen gear without a label in real life.

**Wrecker92** · 04-01-2017, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Tren on your first cycle? Way to go, ditch that junk buddy.

Mast too?

To late now, I done test prop for a fair while with no effects at all so added in tren and tbh been on for 2 weeks and feel sweet. Apart from my oily arm lol

**kelkel** · 04-01-2017, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

x2...

Find different supplier.

Oh hell yes. Train natural until then.

**Bonaparte** · 04-04-2017, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Sorry, those are additives that help dissolve the steroid crystals and keep them in solution as well as keep bacteria and viruses from contaminating the vial. As mentioned above, some are sensitive to BO.

My girlfriend is very sensitive to BO. She's always nagging me about showers and deodorant and shit...