My First Cycle (revised)

**Throws_awway_1** · 08-16-2017, 09:14 AM

Stats:
27 male
205 lbs 15-18%
4 training days (powerlifting)
Diet will be about 3000-3500 cal

8 week cycle (first cycle)

Test E 200mg twice a week thurs/mon night

50mg oral anadrol 30 min before workout
(50mg anadrol same time non workout days)

6 week PCT
Clomid and Nolvadex

I am have been and am currently researching but had a few questions that keep going back and forth. Do I need an AI using such a small dose of test? I was thinking about getting cycle support because the anadrol is pretty hepatotoxic to my understanding? I've read I need between 500mg and 1000mg milk thistle? Is there anything else key I should look for in a cycle support or just get milk thistle?

On a side note I do have some M1T but thought it would be best to hold off on this since it's my first cycle and don't need to orals to destroy my liver.

Thank you guys for your help, if not for you I would have made some pretty wrong first cycle desicions. Much appreciated!

**CALLMEOCT** · 08-16-2017, 09:35 AM

If you're going for enanthate I'd go 12 weeks running hcg throughout the cycle. Check autinite post stickied.

**Back In Black** · 08-16-2017, 10:13 AM

As stated above Too short.

Drop the anadrol

Add an ai

Add Hcg

Pct probably too long

In fact, read this and follow it to a T.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

**kelkel** · 08-16-2017, 10:41 AM

Follow that link to the letter. Whoever influenced you to use drol on a first cycle is an ass.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 08-16-2017, 02:11 PM

his trainer/coach sold him anadrol and m1t and now he feels the need to use it.

**Throws_awway_1** · 08-16-2017, 02:48 PM

Your probably right, I just feel the need to use it. But I listen and learn, and will just run test E for best results. As far as hCG , is it 100 percent nessacary? I can't get my hands on any and don't really want to delay my cycle any longer. I still need to get an AI, which I also can't find.... is Arima XD or any other OTC available for an effective AI?

I know this is going to be ripped apart here but y'all my only point of reference.

**guitarzan** · 08-16-2017, 03:31 PM

Hcg is not necessary if you don't care if your nuts shrivel up to nothing

**Back In Black** · 08-16-2017, 11:29 PM

If you don't have all your ancillaries then don't start your cycle.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

**fit_deskjocky** · 08-17-2017, 08:42 AM

Save the Anadrol for your 3rd Cycle or get your $300 back for the Anadrol and M1T and get it for $50 from the same source you are getting your Enanthate from.

HCG is always necessary. But the arguments you will find is when to take it. The old school broscience will tell you to take it with PCT. Some regiments suggest 1000ius ED for 5 days, sometimes more. Austinites thread recommends 250iu, 2x a week, E3D up until PCT. For me the 2x a week kept my boys full and kept me from freaking out when they'd shrink to 70% in between HCG injections. Using it while on cycle has both physical, mental and hormonal positives to take into account.

You should be able to get your hands on Pharma grade PCT fairly easily it's just going to take a little research on your end.

**MuscleScience** · 08-17-2017, 08:50 AM

Agree with all the above, you must have your AI on hand and running
So you don't develop bitch tits. (gynocomastia)

**PT1982** · 08-17-2017, 12:06 PM

As stated, have everything, including pct one hand before you start. You never know what life might throw at you and possibly have to come off. Hcg is needed in my opinion. And lastly, 400mgs isn't a low dose, so an AI is a must. All you have to do is listen to these guys and you'll do great!