Halo and stanozolol

[XxHighlanderxX]

Need to know if this is safe my dosage is 15mg stan and 10gm halo. Taking both once a day. Whats everyones thoughts on it

[DocToxin8]

Why?

Safe? Depends on for how long.

Smart? Not really. No test or nothing on the side?
Is this to just gain strength and be able to get clean quick?

Watch out for when you start to feel worn out.

[XxHighlanderxX]

The halo said it was 198% test. Useing the stanozol as a builder

[XxHighlanderxX]

b


Its working been taking it for about 2 months i feel great and energy is better than it was when i started.

[charger69]

198% test? That should have set off a ref flag. 100% would be just test.
I hope that you are taking something for your liver. No


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[almostgone]

The halo said it was 198% test. Useing the stanozol as a builder

How can something be more than 100%? Fluoxymesterone/halo is simply a testosterone derived 17AA steroid. Yes, it has a crazy anabolic rating in reference to test, but it doesn't translate to massive gains by any means.

[DocToxin8]

The halo said it was 198% test. Useing the stanozol as a builder

Oh no.
Please read what you actually take before you do.
Halo is fluoxymesterone.
While it is much more androgenic than test,
it isn't really that much more anabolic in the real world.

You should know this before taking it.

[DocToxin8]

b


Its working been taking it for about 2 months i feel great and energy is better than it was when i started.

2 months?

And how much longer do you figure to stay on?
Abort now IMO.

[XxHighlanderxX]

What would be your sugestion for a good stack cycle?

[XxHighlanderxX]

I have just about any anabolic available to me. Problem being i dont know the right way to use them. I took these i have on hand to see what results i could get and i got there pretty fast i thought. But i will stop taking them today. What would be a good post cycle idea. I have be taking b15 for my liver and taking goats milk to keep my kidneys clear. I knew to protect my organs lol but dont fully understand what stacks with what or how i can get the same results will similar small doses

[XxHighlanderxX]

My stanozol is from the same company

[DocToxin8]

You might need some nolvadex or clomid for PCT now, to get your testosterone production up again fast.

Before taking anything please read about it.
Your next cycle should be testosterone IMO,
but you need to know how to use hcg, AI and PCT.
This is important for reducing the side effects and for keeping your gains.

[XxHighlanderxX]

My stanozol is from the same company

[DocToxin8]

I have just about any anabolic available to me. Problem being i dont know the right way to use them. I took these i have on hand to see what results i could get and i got there pretty fast i thought. But i will stop taking them today. What would be a good post cycle idea. I have be taking b15 for my liver and taking goats milk to keep my kidneys clear. I knew to protect my organs lol but dont fully understand what stacks with what or how i can get the same results will similar small doses

You can't rely on goats milk to do anything but serve as, well, milk.

For organ support you need to look into;
NAC (n acetyl cysteine)
Milk thistle (use 80% silymarin)
SAMe (s adenosyl methionine)
B complex (just to hinder buildup of homocysteine)

And drink lots of water.

[almostgone]

You can't rely on goats milk to do anything but serve as, well, milk.

For organ support you need to look into;
NAC (n acetyl cysteine)
Milk thistle (use 80% silymarin)
SAMe (s adenosyl methionine)
B complex (just to hinder buildup of homocysteine)

And drink lots of water.

I would add in TUDCA as well. Perhaps skip the milk thistle, but I am pretty much in line with Doc's thoughts. Personally, I would be planning to pull a hepatic panel pretty darn soon.

[XxHighlanderxX]

And can i get all that at the drug store or do i need to order it?

[XxHighlanderxX]

Would i be better off useing equipoise than the winstrol for my next cycle? And how long should i wait befor starting again? The after life of the orals isnt long. So i was just wondering

[fit_deskjocky]

I have just about any anabolic available to me. Problem being i dont know the right way to use them. I took these i have on hand to see what results i could get and i got there pretty fast i thought. But i will stop taking them today. What would be a good post cycle idea. I have be taking b15 for my liver and taking goats milk to keep my kidneys clear. I knew to protect my organs lol but dont fully understand what stacks with what or how i can get the same results will similar small doses

You should read and educate yourself and understand the threads below. These would definitely be a tremendous help to you.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

[XxHighlanderxX]

Problem being iv done been on it for a while. So the things to prevent and the dos and do nots dont really help at this point hahaha

[Back In Black]

Do you have Clomid and nolvadex now? If now get some asap and start it the day after you stop your orals

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Time off should be time on + PCT so that's about 12 weeks after the end of PCT. that should give you time to drop your bodyfat levels to closer to 15% with the correct diet and cardio regime. Your pictures aren't clear but you look high in the 20%'s right now. Cutting with your first test cycle will be a waste imho and you should be looking to bulk when you start that cycle.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...all-costs.html

As stated above run test only next. Here is some reading for you.

[fit_deskjocky]

I'm surprised you don't feel like shit from the 2 straight months of Halo. Granted your dose is on the lower end but most won't run Halo longer than 4 weeks at most cause the liver toxicity.

[XxHighlanderxX]

Just info i didnt have available to me at the time thats why i joined here

[DocToxin8]

I'm surprised you don't feel like shit from the 2 straight months of Halo. Granted your dose is on the lower end but most won't run Halo longer than 4 weeks at most cause the liver toxicity.

Very big difference between 10mg and 20mg ED when it comes to halo.
At 20mg it's not unlikely he'd have felt it.
I got worn out after 6 weeks on 20mg. Used bloodwork and it was ok,
but felt shitty.
(And I ran it with test needless to say!)

[almostgone]

And can i get all that at the drug store or do i need to order it?

Amazon is generally cheaper?

[almostgone]

Would i be better off useing equipoise than the winstrol for my next cycle? And how long should i wait befor starting again? The after life of the orals isnt long. So i was just wondering

The half life isn't long but the aftereffects of stacking 2 17-AA steroids may linger on for a bit, depending on dosage and individual physiology. Make sure you're healthy, fully recovered, and that your are ready before jumping on again.

Edit: Also, use some of the useful links posted above. Each one of those people who posted that info is genuinely interested in helping you properly do this in a safe manner.

[DocToxin8]

Just info i didnt have available to me at the time thats why i joined here

I like you're attitude.
While you've used these roids recklessly so far,
you seem genuinely interested in learning how to do it right,
and doesn't come with the "I know it all" attitude many have when having used a little AAS.
That deserves respect IMO.

Read the links people posted;
How to execute first cycle and so on.

It take some time, but it's important.
And if there's anything you don't understand then just ask.

Your next cycle will probably consist of the following;
Testosterone enanthate
Arimidex
Hcg
-then finish with PCT (post cycle therapy) to keep your gains and restore your body's production of hormones;
Clomid and nolvadex (is what many go for)
Or alternatively just clomid or nolvadex (I'd go for nolva if solo)
There's also some other options like toremifene.

That's what we call a test only cycle,
but as you see, there's a lot of other drugs involved than testosterone.
These are all there for reducing side effects and keeping gains.

[XxHighlanderxX]

Thanks everyone for your help im going to make a list of stuff and get it orderd. Looking forward to the second go around the right way

[PT1982]

Just info i didnt have available to me at the time thats why i joined here

We're glad you did. Looks like everyone has you steered the right direction. I'll echo what many have said and say you should run post cycle therapy and even get bloodwork with a full hormone panel 2 months or so after the pct. With orals only I usually would say 4 weeks of nolva wiggle be fine. But since you took them so long, I would suggest Clomid and nolva. Good luck to you sir!

[PT1982]

I like you're attitude.
While you've used these roids recklessly so far,
you seem genuinely interested in learning how to do it right,
and doesn't come with the "I know it all" attitude many have when having used a little AAS.
That deserves respect IMO.

Read the links people posted;
How to execute first cycle and so on.

It take some time, but it's important.
And if there's anything you don't understand then just ask.

I do too! Lol. I got that same feeling and had to reply. A breath of fresh air!

[charger69]

Before taking anything please read about it.

Funny you say that. A long time ago I asked for proviron and I was given Halo. After I opened it, I decided to read about it. Scared the crap out of me and I still have the full bottle.

[XxHighlanderxX]

Ok i just picked up a few test sups and some milk thistle and afew other things. I have orderd the nolvadex should be here tomorrow.

[DocToxin8]

Funny you say that. A long time ago I asked for proviron and I was given Halo. After I opened it, I decided to read about it. Scared the crap out of me and I still have the full bottle.

Yes, halo is really a specialized compound that most should stay clear of IMO.
Not just because of hepatoxicity, but when you start running halo in doses up to 40mg with some test, it's one of the very few AAS that can actually give you a bit of "roid rage"/psychological sides.
Not to mention it doesn't take long before you start to feel "worn out",
it's like the body just tells you this is too harsh.
When I used it I didn't get any sign of liver issues,
but I felt like crap after a while.

Halo is great for short runs when you got low BF and want hardness and strength, but it's an AAS you really have to respect.

[kelkel]

Be sure you get full blood work about six weeks post pct to see how you have recovered. Then you can make an informed decision on your next cycle.