Tren a + test p first cycle

**YashS** · 11-20-2017, 05:29 AM

Greetings!

looking to do a tren ace and test prop cycle as my first. I know tren for first is kinda looked down upon but I'm willing to take the plunge unless offered a better alternative minus the water retention as I'm looking for a lean shape and not the bulky.
Stats: 6'1 at 78kgs (171 lbs)
My cycle:
Wk 1-8 : test 100mg eod + tren 75mg eod
Wk 4-8 : hcg 500iu per week. (Required?)

Pct :
Week 1: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 2: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 3: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 4: 20mg Nolva ED

Suggestions, advice and guidance!

Thank you!

**Sh0tsf1red** · 11-20-2017, 06:20 AM

Test only for first cycle, come on now...

**hollowedzeus** · 11-20-2017, 06:22 AM

Tren isnt a good idea at 23. Most will still say gear is a bad idea at 23.

You should probably get more muscle naturally before taking gear

**kronik420** · 11-20-2017, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by YashS

Greetings!

looking to do a tren ace and test prop cycle as my first. I know tren for first is kinda looked down upon but I'm willing to take the plunge unless offered a better alternative minus the water retention as I'm looking for a lean shape and not the bulky.
Stats: 6'1 at 78kgs (171 lbs)
My cycle:
Wk 1-8 : test 100mg eod + tren 75mg eod
Wk 4-8 : hcg 500iu per week. (Required?)

Pct :
Week 1: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 2: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 3: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 4: 20mg Nolva ED

Suggestions, advice and guidance!

Thank you!

have you considered eating some food?

**songdog** · 11-20-2017, 09:12 AM

6'1 178 you don't need aas you need FOOD! not to mention your too young.

**GearHeaded** · 11-20-2017, 10:16 AM

you've never pinned gear a day in your life and you want to jump into pinning test prop and tren ace every other day for 8 weeks . your going to be sore as fuck and probably won't even be able to train. PIP for a newb is bad enough let alone pinning that often with gear that has some bite to it to begin with.
first cycle should be test E, pinned 1-2x per week

and at 6'1" 170 pounds, your not going to accidentally get that 'bulky' look . you'd need to put on 70 pounds to look bulky at your height

**Couchlock** · 11-20-2017, 06:25 PM

Hehe, "tren cough" wait till you feel that

**David LoPan** · 11-20-2017, 06:55 PM

Horrible first cycle. You need to spend a little time reading. http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html and this one http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html after those two you need to head over to here. http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

**charger69** · 11-20-2017, 10:37 PM

You should really wait. Chances are you are still d veloping..
Why would you want to stop your natural test production at its peak? Your risks are too high.wait another 2 years.
As previously stated, you are wasting your money taking AAS without first having your diet dialed in. You will lose your gains quickly.

**Obs** · 11-20-2017, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

You should really wait. Chances are you are still d veloping..
Why would you want to stop your natural test production at its peak? Your risks are too high.wait another 2 years.
As previously stated, you are wasting your money taking AAS without first having your diet dialed in. You will lose your gains quickly.

If I hadn't cycled at 22:
Would I have gone through 8 years of life with test levels above 400?
Would I have started cycling at 30 again at 200lbs instead of 165-170lb?
Would I weigh 240 lb now instead of 220lb?
Would I be on stage?

Probably.
OP, the entire point of AAS is to exceed natural limits. You cannot exceed natural limits when you don't even know what they are. Wait a bit, study, eat, train, and peak then turn on the burners and cycle it up. Make sure you hit your developmental peak before you shut down a perfectly good developing system. Odds are you aren't Dallas Mccarver so you are gonna need all the help you can get.

However bad I wanted to cycle when I was younger, I wish a lot harder I could go back and redo and start at 25-26 so I would be closer to my goals today. I completely pissed away my 20's in every fashion available.

This isn't a lecture just something to consider before you make that leap. Tren is a no go for a first cycle. Your first cycle will be the greatest cycle you ever do in terms of gains. Don't mess it up. Burning bridges behind you after you have done things right is much better than burning bridges between you and your destination. 2 years is a blink. Good luck.