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    First cycle help

    Okay so Iíve done my research on all the stuff I believe Iíll need and I know why I need everything Iím going to take. I would just really like to confirm with some experts on this. I at 195 6í1 and 18. No matter how much is said about staying natty Iím not gonna listen, just wanna be safe when I start unlike a lot of people I know. Hereís my first cycle plans, any comments regarding the supplements in this cycle will be helpful. Thank you!

    Week 1-10 Test
    Test E: 500mg weekly
    Every Monday morning and Thursday night 250mg
    Need 2, 10ml, 250mg per ml vials

    Week 1-12 Arimidex or anastrozole
    .25mg every other day
    Need 11 tablets 1mg
    Also take 400mg or milk thistle daily along with my 1000mg of Omega 3ís


    Week 13-16 Pct
    Nolvadex 40mg daily for week 13
    Nolvadex 40mg daily for week 14
    Nolvadex 20mg daily for week 15
    Nolvadex 20mg daily for week 16

    Need 84 10mg tablets

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageRaider520 View Post
    Okay so I’ve done my research on all the stuff I believe I’ll need and I know why I need everything I’m going to take. I would just really like to confirm with some experts on this. I at 195 6’1 and 18. No matter how much is said about staying natty I’m not gonna listen, just wanna be safe when I start unlike a lot of people I know. Here’s my first cycle plans, any comments regarding the supplements in this cycle will be helpful. Thank you!

    Week 1-10 Test
    Test E: 500mg weekly
    Every Monday morning and Thursday night 250mg
    Need 2, 10ml, 250mg per ml vials

    Week 1-12 Arimidex or anastrozole
    .25mg every other day
    Need 11 tablets 1mg
    Also take 400mg or milk thistle daily along with my 1000mg of Omega 3’s


    Week 13-16 Pct
    Nolvadex 40mg daily for week 13
    Nolvadex 40mg daily for week 14
    Nolvadex 20mg daily for week 15
    Nolvadex 20mg daily for week 16

    Need 84 10mg tablets
    - Your duration of cycle is wrong

    - Your PCT is Wrong

    - On Cycle is missing something extremely important unless you want to not have testicles

    - Under 200 lbs & over 6 feet tall means you don't know how to eat. Don't to argue this point, it's a losing battle.

    - There is no such thing as safe cycling at 18 years old. Your comment is naive and ignorant

    For your sake, I hope you aren't one of those 18 year old kids with a McDonalds style job. Because you are going to need thousands and thousands of dollars to afford Testosterone Replacement Therapy after you've screwed up your body while it's still developing.
    Last edited by Windex; 07-24-2018 at 02:33 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    - Your duration of cycle is wrong

    - Your PCT is Wrong

    - On Cycle is missing something extremely important unless you want to not have testicles

    - Under 200 lbs & over 6 feet tall means you don't know how to eat. Don't to argue this point, it's a losing battle.

    - There is no such thing as safe cycling at 18 years old. Your comment is naive and ignorant

    For your sake, I hope you aren't one of those 18 year old kids with a McDonalds style job. Because you are going to need thousands and thousands of dollars to afford Testosterone Replacement Therapy after you've screwed up your body while it's still developing.
    Well could instead of bashing could you help me understand whatís wrong about the cycle and pct and are you talking about Hcg to help minimalize testecical Srinkage? Lots of forums Iíve seen talk about a 10 weeks of 500mg of test with two weeks to clear the body than into pct

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    Should I run 12.5mg of armosin eod instead of the Arimidex ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageRaider520 View Post
    Should I run 12.5mg of armosin eod instead of the Arimidex?
    You shouldn't cycle because it will be a waste of your time and money. Here are the problems

    - Your body is not fully developed yet, you have another 6-7 years of development. When you take steroids prematurely. you greatly increase the risk of permanently damaging your endocrine system.

    - After taking steroids, you will lose any weight you put on because you don't know how to eat properly. This isn't a personal attack, its just a fact. 99.9% of people at your age don't know their body or how to feed it. The remaining 0.1% already have their pro card. Because you cannot gain weight naturally, you are not going to get any further ahead using steroids. You could easily get to 210 lbs @ 10% bodyfat without anything but proper nutrition, education, and training.

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    Read this

    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html

    then this

    https://forums.steroid.com/education...-aas-imho.html

    then read all the threads in here

    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...%2A%2A%2A.html


    After you've done that. Read them all again. After you've read them a second time, re-read my post.

    After that, try to convince someone here that cycling at 18 is smart.
    Last edited by Windex; 07-24-2018 at 12:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageRaider520 View Post
    Well could instead of bashing could you help me understand what’s wrong about the cycle and pct and are you talking about Hcg to help minimalize testecical Srinkage? Lots of forums I’ve seen talk about a 10 weeks of 500mg of test with two weeks to clear the body than into pct

    Windex is not bashing you he is just telling you how it is.

    In all honesty you are way to young, use what mother nature is giving you for now. Wait a few years and then cycle if you want to no one is telling you to stay natty forever just trying to look out for your health.

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    I don't think Windex is trying to bash you (though he could be getting tired of people coming on here asking about a first cycle and their plans reflecting their lack of preparedness). That being said, I think you've probably done more research than most who initially get into steroids , but not enough to maximize your safety and effectiveness.

    I don't think the duration of your cycle is necessarily WRONG, since there's no shortage of people who do 10 week cycles. But it's not the standard.

    Windex is absolutely right about your PCT though. You need to do a little more reading on that.

    In addition to missing something important from your cycle, you also added something that for a test only cycle, I don't see why you need.

    He's also right about your height and weight. I'm not just an ectomorph, I'm THE ectomorph. When I started working out at 22 I was 150 lbs at 6'2". And I had no shortage of food. I was well known everywhere as that guy with a tapeworm that the doctors can't find. And in 4 years I managed to get up to 212 pounds at 12% BF, and that's BEFORE I started trying to really perfect my diet. I expect to be quite a bit better before I start my first cycle. If you're 6'1" and under 200 lbs, you either aren't eating right, or haven't been training/dieting long enough for steroids to be a good idea.

    And lastly....you are way too young. If you're hardheaded enough to ignore the advice of veterans (we all are at 18 and realize a few years later how stupid we were at that age when we thought we had it all figured out) and you decide to do it anyway, at least educate yourself a lot more before getting into any of this.

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