Help with first test cycle

**Tylc557** · 07-26-2018, 07:02 AM

Hey guys I’m 29. 5’7” 148ish.
I’m about to start my first cycle of test just want to get a few things straight before I start seeing how so many pages contradict each other.

I’m gonna just do a 10week cycle of test 300 one shot a week.

I’m confused on if I should take a natural test booster why on cycle. Someone people say yes some people say no.

Also should I take noveldex or something simpler why on cycle? Some people say it hurts gains some like be by it. Just want y’all input.

What size points do y’all use?

Anything else I should be taking or any other symptoms I should be looking out for?

I have read and read it’s just so much to understand so any help is much appreciated.

I feel like my diet is pretty good I’m taking 3300 calories a day and staying away from all the bad. Is 20lbs a unrealistic goal for my first cycle?

Thanks Ty

**brazey** · 07-26-2018, 09:03 AM

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**Windex** · 07-27-2018, 06:25 AM

- test boosters are useless and a waste of money

- Tamoxifen is for PCT not on cycle unless there is a need to control gyno

- 300mg is only double a TRT dose and is not beneficial

- At 148lbs you are small, no disrespect to be meant. You need to gain more weight naturally before considering cycles. Steroids do not turn water to wine, they are not a substitute for proper nutrition and training. Being only 148lba is proof you haven't mastered eating yet.

- 3300 calories with no context is meaning less

- It doesn't really matter how much you gain ona cycle when the diet is not in check because it all goes out the window. In fact, most people who cycle with poor nutrition end up looking worse than before they used steroids because they just put on fat and water weight.

- The scale is very deceiving for tracking goals and success because it doesn't tell you where the weight comes from (fat, muscle, water). To answer your question though, 20 lbs of muscle in a cycle is never going to happen even if you had literally a bath tub full of Testosterone .

- read the diet/nutrition stickies. We can help improve your eating. Take the next 12-15 weeks to get to around 165-170 lbs with 12-15% body fat. Then read the my first cycle sticky then go from there

**Zoudiesel** · 07-29-2018, 04:59 AM

Hey guys recently just bought tren forte 200 I did alot of research and am aware of everything that can happen but one thing that is slowing me down on how much I should use
I'm 6'0 about 150lbs
Currently in good shape
I need to know I'm using 16mm insulin needles I know very small at what line should I draw back to? And how often should I do it thank you

**Chrisp83TRT** · 07-29-2018, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Zoudiesel

Hey guys recently just bought tren forte 200 I did alot of research and am aware of everything that can happen but one thing that is slowing me down on how much I should use
I'm 6'0 about 150lbs
Currently in good shape
I need to know I'm using 16mm insulin needles I know very small at what line should I draw back to? And how often should I do it thank you

How is anyone to know if you posted absolutely nothing ( age , height , weight ... first cycle ? Bf ? )

**Mr. Small** · 07-29-2018, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Zoudiesel

Hey guys recently just bought tren forte 200 I did alot of research and am aware of everything that can happen but one thing that is slowing me down on how much I should use
I'm 6'0 about 150lbs
Currently in good shape
I need to know I'm using 16mm insulin needles I know very small at what line should I draw back to? And how often should I do it thank you

What is the insulin needles for?

**Quester** · 07-29-2018, 08:37 AM

Put "Tren " in the search bar to determine your dosage. If you need help with how much to load into the syringe (based on a specific dose), we will need more information (dose, syringe size, mg/ml of your vial...).

**Arcânn** · 07-30-2018, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Tylc557

Hey guys I’m 29. 5’7” 148ish.
I’m about to start my first cycle of test just want to get a few things straight before I start seeing how so many pages contradict each other.

I’m gonna just do a 10week cycle of test 300 one shot a week.

I’m confused on if I should take a natural test booster why on cycle. Someone people say yes some people say no.

Also should I take noveldex or something simpler why on cycle? Some people say it hurts gains some like be by it. Just want y’all input.

What size points do y’all use?

Anything else I should be taking or any other symptoms I should be looking out for?

I have read and read it’s just so much to understand so any help is much appreciated.

I feel like my diet is pretty good I’m taking 3300 calories a day and staying away from all the bad. Is 20lbs a unrealistic goal for my first cycle?

Thanks Ty

You have a lot to learn but you came to the right forum to learn. You're asking a lot of questions that are answered a lot on this forum.

For the most part, test boost is just throwing your money away. DAA, or any test boost with DAA DOES work in my experience, however, when you look at the results you get for the amount of money you're spending, a test cycle is about 1000x more cost effective than any test boost you'll ever find. And there's absolutely no point in taking a test boost while on cycle. I've heard of people using test boost during PCT, but if you run a proper cycle and do a proper PCT, there's absolutely no need for a test boost. Test boost (the few that somewhat work) are only for people who absolutely 1000% insist on staying natty. But for the money you spend, it's still pretty worthless.

**Arcânn** · 07-30-2018, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Zoudiesel

Hey guys recently just bought tren forte 200 I did alot of research and am aware of everything that can happen but one thing that is slowing me down on how much I should use
I'm 6'0 about 150lbs
Currently in good shape
I need to know I'm using 16mm insulin needles I know very small at what line should I draw back to? And how often should I do it thank you

6'0 and 150 lbs and you want to use tren??????? Have you ever even cycled before????

**Mr.BB** · 07-30-2018, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Zoudiesel

Hey guys recently just bought tren forte 200 I did alot of research and am aware of everything that can happen but one thing that is slowing me down on how much I should use
I'm 6'0 about 150lbs
Currently in good shape
I need to know I'm using 16mm insulin needles I know very small at what line should I draw back to? And how often should I do it thank you

You will not like to hear it, but your research is all wrong.

It is crazy to do tren as first cycle, and you need testosterone in every cycle, as many more ancillaries. Guaranteed erectile dysfunction if you go through with taking tren only for a few weeks.

6'0 and 150lbs, its that new ethiopian look thats going around as being cool?