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    How much tren after npp?

    Hi guys im doing a bulk cycle of 12 week
    of 1400 test prop and 1400npp.
    I have 4 weeks left and i plan to keep bulking with test prop and tren ace for 4 or 6 weeks more after finishing with the 12 weeks npp.
    And after that i will finish with 4 or 6 more weeks of prop and tren for cutting.
    My question is will i gain anything when i switch to tren or gains will be minimal? Worth it or not? And what dose of test prop and tren ace should i do to keep gaining? I get no sides from tren, only some heavy breath and very little night sweats. Last time i did test prop at 1050 mg and tren up to 1300mg. And went fine but i had blood sugars downs.

    Thanks.

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    What's your stats ? Do you compete ? Why do you think you need almost 3grams of gear (half of which from 19nors) ?

    Gains are going to come from diet and training, not from abusing steroids .

    How do you know you have no sides from Tren ? Did you get cholesterol levels checked while on Tren?
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    I do that doses because I can and because of personal preference. I prefer to do higher doses for a shorter time than smaller doses for a longer time.
    On tren cycle i havent had done bloodwork but i had past the cycle and everything came excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuxpic View Post
    Height: 6.3
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    I do that doses because I can and because of personal preference. I prefer to do higher doses for a shorter time than smaller doses for a longer time.
    On tren cycle i havent had done bloodwork but i had past the cycle and everything came excellent.
    A weight without bodyfat% provides no context. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something. I can eat an XL pizza every day, that doesn't mean I should .

    No bloodwork on Tren is very alarming and clearly shows you are ignorant to the consequences that steroids can cause.

    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html shows your first cycle was done January last year.


    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...tren-dose.html
    And then in February you decided to run Tren at 525 even though you hadn't even cycled yet at January and you got caught lying, And now you want to run 3 grams of gear?


    Either you are a troll, or just another 24 year old punk kid who thinks he's invincible, or both. Either way, you are the classic example of why steroids have such a negative public view.

    In the off chance you are actually just that naive, this is what Cholesterol values look like on 300mg of Tren. What do you think will happen with 4.3x more ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    A weight without bodyfat% provides no context. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something. I can eat an XL pizza every day, that doesn't mean I should .

    No bloodwork on Tren is very alarming and clearly shows you are ignorant to the consequences that steroids can cause.

    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html shows your first cycle was done January last year.


    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...tren-dose.html
    And then in February you decided to run Tren at 525 even though you hadn't even cycled yet at January and you got caught lying, And now you want to run 3 grams of gear?


    Either you are a troll, or just another 24 year old punk kid who thinks he's invincible, or both. Either way, you are the classic example of why steroids have such a negative public view.

    In the off chance you are actually just that naive, this is what Cholesterol values look like on 300mg of Tren. What do you think will happen with 4.3x more ?
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    So you know my body better than me? Lol moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuxpic View Post
    So you know my body better than me? Lol moron
    Looks like the truth easily offended you.

    Invest in some horseshoes, rabbits foot, and 4 leaf clovers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuxpic View Post
    Height: 6.3
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    I do that doses because I can and because of personal preference. I prefer to do higher doses for a shorter time than smaller doses for a longer time.
    On tren cycle i havent had done bloodwork but i had past the cycle and everything came excellent.
    But 20-24 weeks of gear, if my math is correct from your initial post, is not a short time.
    Be careful and please get some BW done. More gear is not always the answer. Fine tune your training and nutrition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    But 20-24 weeks of gear, if my math is correct from your initial post, is not a short time.
    Be careful and please get some BW done. More gear is not always the answer. Fine tune your training and nutrition.
    Thanks for your answer. Yea of course i will do bw when i switch to tren .
    Actually i count it but i started the cycle and 3 weeks in i had to stop it for personal reasons. So i didnt stop and keep blasting 150mg test a week for 3 more weeks because i knew i would resume the cycle after those 3 weeks and so i avoided having zero test in those 3 weeks.

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    That's a pretty long cycle. You might be better off to break it into 2 cycles and give your body a chance to breathe between cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    That's a pretty long cycle. You might be better off to break it into 2 cycles and give your body a chance to breathe between cycles.
    If i make sure everything is going well with my body with blood work.. Could it work? I mean i guess i will be still growing when i switch to tren ?

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    Chances are after 24 weeks of running tren And deca you won’t recover anywhere near your natty test production so I hope you have thought about being on TRT of some description for the next 70 years or so.

    Intrigued how you look at that heavy weight, can you ,post a pic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Chances are after 24 weeks of running tren And deca you won’t recover anywhere near your natty test production so I hope you have thought about being on TRT of some description for the next 70 years or so.

    Intrigued how you look at that heavy weight, can you ,post a pic?
    Yes i will post a pic when i reach home in a few hours.
    Actually i have never done a cycle longer than 12 weeks and i have always recovered fine and quickly.
    Do you think it is too risky to add 10 more weeks to the 12? I want to do it because i want to do a noticeable blast and then be off juice for a couple of years.
    Thanks.

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    Just go about 16 weeks and be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuxpic View Post
    Yes i will post a pic when i reach home in a few hours.
    Actually i have never done a cycle longer than 12 weeks and i have always recovered fine and quickly.
    Do you think it is too risky to add 10 more weeks to the 12? I want to do it because i want to do a noticeable blast and then be off juice for a couple of years.
    Thanks.
    Do you have blood work to prove you recovered?

    Reviewing your thread history I’m guessing you haven’t had any real time off in the last 10 months or so since starting your first cycle.

    I honestly think you are going to struggle to recover your natural test levels.
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    Most recommend 12 weeks, maybe a little longer for the law of diminished results. Eventually the body will adapt and progress will come to a halt. Everybody is different but you will experience this plateau eventually and for many it is around those 12 weeks that the receptors become clogged, saturated whatever, which is why you come off and take a break and prepare for the next round.

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    I have been 3 months off before starting this cycle.
    Unfortunately I havent had blood work before my first cycle so i dont know my baseline levels. But past bw showed my test in the normal-high range.
    I think i will stop at the 16 week mark.. Will think or try to reach 20 if i can but i dont know if its worth it.

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    Weres the pic?

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