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Thread: Cardirine (gw501516) and tren

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    Cardirine (gw501516) and tren

    I read that this can help negate the negative side effect of tren that causes breathing and cardio problems. It also helps burn fat, sounds like a win win on a tren cut cycle.
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    Oh, it can also lower bad cholesterol, and raise the good chol. This can beneficial on tren too
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    yes it can definitely help . I've used it off and on for years. I explain some stuff here in this post and also why I personally take it on some Tren cycles

    https://forums.steroid.com/sarms-sel...darine-gw.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Oh, it can also lower bad cholesterol, and raise the good chol. This can beneficial on tren too
    Sounds like another compound I need to be running

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    yes it can definitely help . I've used it off and on for years. I explain some stuff here in this post and also why I personally take it on some Tren cycles

    https://forums.steroid.com/sarms-sel...darine-gw.html
    Does it lower your hematocrit?


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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    I read that this can help negate the negative side effect of tren that causes breathing and cardio problems. It also helps burn fat, sounds like a win win on a tren cut cycle.
    This did absolutely diddly-squat for me personally. I did try a ridiculously high dosage of salbutamol three times/day for a total of 48mg but that did not help either. Tren is out for me for so many reasons but the performance killing effect is the biggest for me as it prohibits me from competing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Oh, it can also lower bad cholesterol, and raise the good chol. This can beneficial on tren too
    Why u wanna lower ldl? All your new musclecells need it.
    And people with high ldl live longer.
    And there is no such thing as bad cholestrol.
    No this seems strange to me.

    Other is correct, but...its most important health issue, as i see it, is its superior heartbeat at rest lowering capabilities.

    Biggest bad for me with it, is once again, body adaption. Used every day for like 3 weeks and u dont feel shit.

    But heartbeat will stil be 20 beats lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's Dr.Silabolin View Post
    Why u wanna lower ldl? All your new musclecells need it.
    And people with high ldl live longer.
    And there is no such thing as bad cholestrol.
    No this seems strange to me.

    Other is correct, but...its most important health issue, as i see it, is its superior heartbeat at rest lowering capabilities.

    Biggest bad for me with it, is once again, body adaption. Used every day for like 3 weeks and u dont feel shit.

    But heartbeat will stil be 20 beats lower.

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    Hmmm, that is definitely not what I'm used to hearing. Doesnt ldl build up in your arteries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Hmmm, that is definitely not what I'm used to hearing. Doesnt ldl build up in your arteries?
    Yes it does. But its not caused by "too much" of it. Your boat doesnt sink because there is too much water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    yes it can definitely help . I've used it off and on for years. I explain some stuff here in this post and also why I personally take it on some Tren cycles

    https://forums.steroid.com/sarms-sel...darine-gw.html
    Damn, yall were talking bout this already on another thread.
    I see where you said it has no stimulatory effect, I assume this means you can take it with eca or clen /t3, or other stimulants? The heart rate lowering may actually make it ideal to take with those stacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's Dr.Silabolin View Post
    Yes it does. But its not caused by "too much" of it. Your boat doesnt sink because there is too much water.

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    So you saying its gonna build up the same, whether or not you lower it, or raise it

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    So you saying its gonna build up the same, whether or not you lower it, or raise it
    Yes. Arteriosclerosis is caused by high BP, genetics, bad immunsystem, bachteria and virus. To avoid arteriosclerosis, its better to boost the immunsystem vit D, garlic etc, avoid high BP and avoid getting sick, than statins. Italian scientists found a connection between caries and arteriosclerosis.
    A couple of pubmeds show bodybuilders with a fucked up lipidprofil and cholestrol, due to heavy steroidabuse, have no more arteriosclerosis than nosteroidusers.

    Rich Piana, who did every shit there is for some 30 years, had just 10% plaque buildup, which is pretty much normal at his age. Jams Tiny West, who is 55 and stil very big and has done gear all his life, was hospitalist for chestpain. But..just 10% buildup...heart and arteries perfect. Pain i guess was due to high hct. He didnt tell.

    For further info u can google the cholestrol myth or Uffe Ravnskov, a denish cholestrol professor and scientist. He is not alone, the top Japanese cholestrolexperts agree with Ravnskov and some 20 western scientists also, who are not bound with textbook education and friends in the trillion dollar statin industry.
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    another good podcast for some quick info on this whole cholesterol thing (and how LDL isn't 'bad' cholesterol)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyIqYumAVN8&t=280s

    Demystifying cholesterol - Dr Nadir All (cardiologist)
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Damn, yall were talking bout this already on another thread.
    I see where you said it has no stimulatory effect, I assume this means you can take it with eca or clen/t3, or other stimulants? The heart rate lowering may actually make it ideal to take with those stacks?
    yes your correct .. you can take it with stimulants . it helps with lipolysis itself, but not by stimulating the CNS
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