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Thread: 2nd Cycle - Mast, Test, Var

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    Jerry2020 is offline Junior Member
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    2nd Cycle - Mast, Test, Var

    Hi everyone. Currently awaiting the last few items to turn up for my 2nd cycle that I will be starting in the next few days.

    I experienced a bit of a rough shutdown period after the first cycle which could have been because of a few factors. Either way, my goals for this cycle aren't at all to bulk up but more to recomp, looking to stay at or near my current weight but have a better composition of fat vs muscle, plus I really did love the way I felt during my first cycle in terms of energy etc (I have had long term issues with lack of energy and lethargy, unfortunately I didn't do pre-cycle bloods before my first cycle to see if this was all because of low T in the beginning).

    Taking into account the above factors I have decided to go with a Mast, Test, Var cycle this time around. I'm not so much looking for feedback in this thread but am happy for anyone to provide some if they have some wise words. It's more to make guys aware and I will hopefully keep a second cycle log in the member experiences section to detail how I go.

    The cycle will look like:
    Test P - 70mg eod - days 1-11
    Mast P - 170mg eod - days 1-11
    Test E - 100mg 2x/week - weeks 1-10
    Mast E - 300mg 2x/week - weeks 1-10
    Anavar - 50mg/day - weeks 7-12
    HCG - 250iu 2x/week - weeks 2-10, 500iu 3x/week - weeks 11-12
    Arimidex - 0.5mg 3x/week - weeks 8-12
    Nolva - 40mg/day - weeks 13-14, 20mg/day - weeks 15-16
    Clomid - 100mg/day - weeks 13-14, 50mg/day weeks 15-16

    This cycle obviously follows some different protocols that have been explained in the links below by different gurus on here. I guess the idea of frontloading with prop versions of both Test and Mast is designed to kickstart the gains so I can keep the cycle as short as possible and still see maximal gains.

    Running the Var after the Test/Mast up to the PCT period has been explained by GH in the attached thread, but I believe is aimed at keeping the anabolism going right up to the time PCT is started and not give me that 2 week break with nothing in the middle that most cycles have (I only made it to day 11 after the last pin before I decided to start PCT last time as I could feel I was declining quickly).

    Keep an eye out on here and in the experiences section to see how it goes, I'm excited at least.

    My first cycle thread
    https://forums.steroid.com/members-c...ml#post7417499

    Mast E vs Mast P thread
    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...asteron-p.html
    Last edited by Jerry2020; 10-22-2018 at 03:29 PM.

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    GearHeaded is offline BANNED
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    good write up..

    just to check real quick, is your PCT with clomid/nolva going to start at week 15 , or right when you come off the VAR after week 12 (which is two weeks after you drop the test e)

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    You should get bloodwork done prior to this cycle, especially if you had problems with shut down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    You should get bloodwork done prior to this cycle, especially if you had problems with shut down.
    Yep will be getting bloods done tomorrow.

    GH, I have my PCT starting in week 13 (2 weeks after the last Test E pin, and right after the Var finishes). Is that correct?
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    sounds good

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    Great plan for second cycle , well researched and thought out.

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