Raising dose and feeling better?

**Mmaman** · 05-12-2020, 01:51 PM

I have been struggling to dial in trt?
I had high estrogen on a low dose of 62.5 mg e3d,
72 sensitive test!

I brought my e2 down by switching to prop Ed 15 mg and .5 mg of adex Ed my e2 was at 11 a month ago!

Someone told my test could be super low on that dose! So I raised my dose from 15 mg Ed of prop to 25 mg Ed and I feel my emotions are in check now my mood is stable I feel numb no more bitchy mood swings! I lowered my adex to .25 mg ed

My sex drive/morning wood is still dead!

I’m thinking about raising dose to 250 mg to bring e2 a little higher?

My question is if I’m such a high aromatizer then why does a higher dose make me feel better?

Should I lower the dose to the point I don’t need a ai but what if my levels come back to low?

**C27H40O3** · 05-12-2020, 02:03 PM

Ditch the AI. It wrecked my libido. It is evil when you are on such low test dose.

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**Mmaman** · 05-12-2020, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by C27H40O3

Ditch the AI. It wrecked my libido. It is evil when you are on such low test dose.

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Yes but my e2 was high when I was on such a low dose more test= more e2

**Windex** · 05-12-2020, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mmaman

Yes but my e2 was high when I was on such a low dose more test= more e2

I would encourage you to read some of the educational threads regarding AI's, SERM's, and DA's. Specifically for the AI you are taking, it was created for cancer patients, not for TRT. In layman's terms, your taking a poison.

If estrogen is actually a concern then start by injecting more frequently, so 3-5 times per week instead of twice per week. If that doesn't fix you could try DIM @ 200mg/day and go form there. Getting hung up on a bloodwork number is counterproductive. I don't think i've checked estrogen in an easy 5 years.

To really drive home the point, I would rather go through chemotherapy than take an AI with TRT

**Mmaman** · 05-12-2020, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

I would encourage you to read some of the educational threads regarding AI's, SERM's, and DA's. Specifically for the AI you are taking, it was created for cancer patients, not for TRT. In layman's terms, your taking a poison.

If estrogen is actually a concern then start by injecting more frequently, so 3-5 times per week instead of twice per week. If that doesn't fix you could try DIM @ 200mg/day and go form there. Getting hung up on a bloodwork number is counterproductive. I don't think i've checked estrogen in an easy 5 years.

To really drive home the point, I would rather go through chemotherapy than take an AI with TRT

Hey man that’s what I did i started that dose of adex and inject Ed! I inject 25 mg of prop Ed, and I have been feeling a lot more stable my mood is flat (aggression spikes) I really want to know why a higher dose is working better if I aromatize at much lower dose?

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**xxblazenlowxx** · 05-12-2020, 05:25 PM

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**SampsonandDelilah** · 05-13-2020, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by xxblazenlowxx

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BG · 05-13-2020, 06:54 AM

You need estrogen for the testosterone you are adding to your body to bind to the AR . That’s why your body produces more estrogen when you add testosterone, they go hand and hand. You need one test molecule, one estrogen and an AR receptor to create free testosterone.

To much estrogen usually means to much testosterone.

**magic32** · 05-17-2020, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by BG

You need estrogen for the testosterone you are adding to your body to bind to the AR . That’s why your body produces more estrogen when you add testosterone, they go hand and hand. You need one test molecule, one estrogen and an AR receptor to create free testosterone .

To much estrogen usually means to much testosterone.

EXACTLY!!!

And the reason you feel better on more Test, even though you're producing correlationally more estro, is because of the Law of Diminishing Returns. In this case, there comes a point in the curve wherein your body responds more/better to the increased Test (as a Test-based male) than it negatively responds to the correlational increase in estro.

In layman's terms, you've reached the floor of your sweet spot.

It's like passing the event horizon, every thing afterwards is inside the gravitational pull of Test, and beyond the affect of esto...thank you Newtonian astrophysics.