supplements and joint health

[Mike Dura]

Anyone pay particular attention to this area? The, what's it called, Gluco..something or other and "chrondroidan." Marketing aside, do you think these or other supplements may be a worthwile investement? My knees and shoulders are pretty achy lately. Anyone ever get a cortizone shot (e.g., in shoulder?)?

[Bryan2]

Glucosimine 1000mg
MSM 1-2000mg ed

In 2-3 weeks you will be much better


another thing to look into is celadrin check here for more info www.celadrin.com

[operationgetbig]

deca
glucosamine
msm
chondrotin
celadrin

[MortalDefiance]

What is Chondroitin sulfate?

Chondroitin sulfate is a natural substance found in cartilage where it performs several important functions that keep cartilage healthy. A bit like a magnet, chondroitin attracts precious water, including nutrient-rich fluid into cartilage. Not enough water in cartilage can cause dryness, pain and loss of nutrients in the joints.

Sometimes the body produces too many enzymes that ‘cut up’ connective tissue, acting as thousands of tiny scissors. Besides attracting fluid into dry cartilage, chondroitin inhibits the work of degradative enzymes that hasten cartilage destruction. Chondroitin stimulates the production of key components of cartilage, such as the chondrocytes and proteoglycans. It works well with glucosamine to rebuild damaged cartilage.

“Fortunately supplemental chondroitin sulfates work very much like the naturally occurring chondroitin sulfates in your cartilage, protecting the old cartilage from premature breakdown and stimulating the synthesis of new cartilage.”

But is it safe?

As it naturally occurs in the body already, it is an extremely safe substance. People who took large amounts of chondroitin - 1.5 to 10 grams a day - for six years showed no ill effects.

What is Glucosamine Sulfate?

Glucosamine sulfate is an amino sugar synthesized in our bodies from glucose. It is the starting point from important macromolecules that make up many body tissues including proteoglycans, the substance of cartilage in the joints. It is involved in the synthesis of mucous membranes in the digestive arid respiratory tract. It is one of the chemicals that forms the cushioning ingredients in joint fluids arid surrounding tissue. It contributes to making the synovial fluid thick and elastic. In other words, Glucosamine sulfate plays a role in the formation of nails, tendons, skin, eyes, synovial fluid, bone, ligaments, heart valves and in mucous secretion of the digestive, respiratory and urinary tracts. Any deficiency of glucosamine can slow the production of these macromolecules causing specific weakness in these tissues. Glucosamine sulfate’s positive effects on degenerative joint disease or osteoarthritis are touted by many.

Glucosamine sulfate has a positive effect on a variety of health problems; primarily those that involve the breakdown of synovial fluid, damage to muscles, tissues, and ligaments, inflammation of disc, and sciatica nerve; and inflammation of joints associated with aging. When our lubricating synovial fluid becomes thin, its ability to cushion is reduced. Cartilage, bones, and tendons can rub against each other causing damage, loss of movement and pain. Especially excruciating pain results when discs in the spinal cord put pressure on the nerves because the synovial fluid is too thin. Glucosamine sulfate makes the synovial fluid thick and gelatinous increasing its cushioning ability, lessening the friction and pain.

[Mike Dura]

That's some good feedback. Thanks.

[Dense 03]

I take Glucosamine Sulfate & Chrondroitin along with MSM. I take 4-6grams ED of MSM, and 3 grams ED of G&C.

I also use the MSM cream

Good stuff. Doesn't work quick. I've heard MSM compared to creatine, in that you build up a high level of it in your body, and when it's maxed, that's when the benefits are also at its greatest. Not sure about the accuracy of that statement, but point is, it'll take a few weeks

-Dense

[MortalDefiance]

MSM (Methyl-sulfonyl-methane) is an important volatile component of the sulfur cycle and a rich source of organic sulfur, which is the third most abundant mineral in the body and which is concentrated in connective tissues and joint cartilage. Evidence supports a role for MSM in maintaining healthy joint structure and function.

[swingbatta]

a few have been seeing some great results from vit c megadosing

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=210855